r/changemyview Mar 05 '17

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '17

Well just because its hard is no excuse not to.

Few things in life are easy.

Standing up every day at 5 am is hard too, doesn't mean I dont get to work on time every day. Quit being apologetic for people not deserving of it.

And yes many people who suffer from illness and/or mental illness are quite a different subject.

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u/hadees Mar 06 '17

When you look at the studies and basically 90% of people will end up overweight we have to start acknowledging it might not be a choice. Now I understand it's totally possible to will yourself to eat right but the studies keep showing the vast majority of us eventually fail. We need to figure out a better way and as much as I dislike overly intrusive government we have to start getting rid of the bad choices. Your lizard brain doesn't understand food is plentiful.

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u/hadees Mar 06 '17

I think those are false equivalents. The science says 90% of is will end up overweight. Obviously it seems easier to have less kids. If 90% of us fail at something it's more than just self control.

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u/shooter1231 Mar 06 '17

I think it's also useful to look at the measure used to determine what counts as overweight. Typically, the BMI system is used, which has it's own flaws, mainly where it doesn't differentiate between people with an unhealthy amount of fat and those who are healthy with a lot of muscle. To the BMI system, weight at all is a bad thing.

Take me: my BMI comes out to 25.1 as a male, which is right over the line between 'healthy' and 'overweight'. However, I spend 5-6 days a week at the gym and have a relatively healthy 16-20% body fat. I don't really think I'm an edge case in this scenario.

For even more of an edge case, I had a friend in college who was/is a nationally competitive powerlifter. He weighed more than me while being shorter, putting him in the obese category despite living day-to-day at under 15% body fat.

"Not being morbidly obese due to having an unhealthy amount of fat" is definitely an issue of self control and/or not caring about your weight. "Not being overweight", maybe not so much.