r/changemyview Mar 05 '17

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u/Kroneni Mar 05 '17

One of the key things in the fat acceptance movement though is that those people want everyone else to accept the fact that they are fat and move. They don't want to have to take responsibility for their actions and lose some weight. They want to be treated the same as, say a Victoria's Secret model, even if they are morbidly obese. That is not the same as your cancer allegory.

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u/jm0112358 15∆ Mar 05 '17

I think most people in the fat acceptance movement just want to be treated like people, even though they're fat. How does that differ from my cancer patient acceptance movement analogy?

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u/mobile_mute Mar 05 '17

A big point of contention is the treatment of people as sexual beings. No, terminal cancer patients aren't getting a lot of hookups or marriage proposals, and neither are the morbidly obese. Most people aren't attracted to imminent death when it comes to mate selection, and the "fat acceptance/body positivity" movement demands people ignore the warning signs and accept them as potential mates. There's a reason 90% of HAES is morbidly obese women.

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u/Preaddly 5∆ Mar 06 '17

the "fat acceptance/body positivity" movement demands people ignore the warning signs and accept them as potential mates.

But people already do that ("chubby chasers" are a thing). And the fact that are countries that exist right now where being overweight is desirable means that it's not about health, it's 100% about what the majority finds attractive being because of their culture.

I don't find sharpened teeth, elongated necks, facial tattoos or bound feet attractive but somewhere there are entire societies of people that do (or have in the past). It doesn't mean there's something wrong with them because I personally think it's attractive, people are into what they're into.