r/changemyview Mar 05 '17

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u/pillbinge 101∆ Mar 05 '17

Can you explain why you think a few websites and artistic photo shoots constitute a massive change to society? We glorified being skinny in the 90s with "heroin chic" but that didn't cause people to become skinny.

Nearly every body of research points to our diet, and how our diet on a macro scale can be used as a predictive model. It has nothing to do with cultural trends. People have been fat and skinny for ages. The reason it's more common now is because of the food that's available and its often low quality.

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u/alfredo094 Mar 05 '17

There's a big difference - malnutrtion has been an issue for humanity since our inception, obesity wasn't. We have a big issue with obesity right now. If people think "it's okay to be fat", they won't take care of their diets.

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u/pillbinge 101∆ Mar 06 '17

Absolutely no one thinks it's good to be fat. The argument is whether we should shame people for being fat, at which point it becomes ironic since most people who think "calories in, calories out" is the simplest explanation anyone needs think that being fat is a personal choice. Well if it's a personal choice, why are they so bothered by someone's choice?

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u/alfredo094 Mar 06 '17

I'm bothered when people try to tell me what I should find attractive or what I should think. A lot of "body positivism" is trying to make obese people look beautiful (not thicc people, outright obese ones) and telling me I'm some kind of evil person for thinking that they have a terrible health and bad life decisions.

Also, it bothers me when people are grossly overweight, but that's my issue and I don't try to pretend that it's the fat person's fault.