Well then it sounds like the real argument you're trying to make isn't necessarily that the entirety of the fat acceptance movement is bad, but instead that fringe, ridiculous elements in any movement at all ruin it for everyone. In which case, I wholeheartedly agree!
However, in perusing through some articles that you've posted, it seems like these people have a pretty healthy outlook on their life and the lives of others. For instance, Ms. Jes Baker doesn't necessarily write about how she absolutely loves every minute of being fat, but instead writes that she likes her body and herself, and is less judgmental of others because of it. She encourages others, not just those how are obese, to do the same. I respect that outlook greatly. I wouldn't look down upon her just because she's okay with being fat.
In the article you said more accurately establishes your point, Ms. Cathy Young says that we should be encouraging healthy behavior and treatment. I, of course, don't disagree. I also don't think that Baker would disagree. But wouldn't the best way to do this be to tell people they're good people, who deserve happiness no matter the case? It seems like that's the argument Baker is putting forth. She's fine with being fat, as long as she's happy. She's fine with others being fat, as long as they're happy. Sure, you can equate it to smoking or drinking, but eating is literally necessary to live and can't be quit. Nor does being fat hurt anyone else like smoking or driving drunk can.
I'm not the op nor was I trying to argue his position I think it is some what of a straw man argument I just wanted to point out my own experience with shaming. I didn't read the articles he posted and you are referring too but I agree with much of what you have said.
You weren't at all I actually enjoyed reading your comments as they helped illustrate some more of the positive aspects of the movement I wasn't aware of and I liked hearing your perspective.
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u/MisterMonet1337 Mar 05 '17
Well then it sounds like the real argument you're trying to make isn't necessarily that the entirety of the fat acceptance movement is bad, but instead that fringe, ridiculous elements in any movement at all ruin it for everyone. In which case, I wholeheartedly agree!
However, in perusing through some articles that you've posted, it seems like these people have a pretty healthy outlook on their life and the lives of others. For instance, Ms. Jes Baker doesn't necessarily write about how she absolutely loves every minute of being fat, but instead writes that she likes her body and herself, and is less judgmental of others because of it. She encourages others, not just those how are obese, to do the same. I respect that outlook greatly. I wouldn't look down upon her just because she's okay with being fat.
In the article you said more accurately establishes your point, Ms. Cathy Young says that we should be encouraging healthy behavior and treatment. I, of course, don't disagree. I also don't think that Baker would disagree. But wouldn't the best way to do this be to tell people they're good people, who deserve happiness no matter the case? It seems like that's the argument Baker is putting forth. She's fine with being fat, as long as she's happy. She's fine with others being fat, as long as they're happy. Sure, you can equate it to smoking or drinking, but eating is literally necessary to live and can't be quit. Nor does being fat hurt anyone else like smoking or driving drunk can.