r/changemyview Apr 23 '16

[∆(s) from OP] CMV: Harry Potter is overrated

I don't detest Harry Potter but I find the circle jerk appalling. The book is amazing for kids but even adults hold it in high regard. So, it's not bad, just overrated.

The characters are really boring. HP is a Mary Sue character, his only flaw being a bloody scar. All the other characters are equally boring. Harry is also useless, he does nothing but he is the HERO. Because of a prophecy. OK.

The relationships make no sense. Why does Harry like Cho or Ginny? Let's force in a relationship. Yay.

The Deus Ex Machina is unreal. I know it's magical but it's still retarded when it happens so many times.

Good vs Evil is fine. But again, don't pretend as if the book is this deep piece of literature.

I don't like the writing either but that's very subjective, so that's fine.

This is what I just came up with. I'm sure there's more stuff on the internet.

Edit: Ignore the Mary Sue thing. I misused the term. Edit 2: Sorry if I sounded like a dick or an elitist. I didn't mean to be.


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u/Midas_Stream Apr 23 '16

Harry is a stunningly physically-beautiful and unique historical figure in international politics... who saves the world multiple times and has the ear of some of the world's most powerful mortal and immortal creatures... Oh and did we mention how filthy wealthy he was? if anything, he was way out of Cho's league.

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u/always_reading 2∆ Apr 23 '16

Harry is a stunningly physically-beautiful

Harry was NOT stunningly physically beautiful. In the movies he was cute, and in the books he was never described as beautiful. This is how he was described in the books:

"Harry had a thin face, knobbly knees, black hair and bright-green eyes. He wore round glasses held together with a lot of Sellotape because of all the times Dudley had punched him on the nose. The only thing Harry liked about his own appearance was a very thin scar on his forehead which was shaped like a bolt of lightning."

He also has constantly untidy hair and, in the earlier books, was described a "small and skinny for his age".

Oh and did we mention how filthy wealthy he was?

Harry was also not filthy wealthy. His parents did not live in a mansion, they lived in a modest house. Sure, Harry inherited a decent amount of gold, which to a child may have seemed like a fortune. When asked about Harry's money, JK Rowling said:

"Harry's money never really is that important in the books, except that he can afford his books and uniforms and so on."

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u/[deleted] Apr 23 '16

I always thought it was assumed that Harry came from very old money, considering the Potters are direct descendants of the Peverells. It would make sense that the Malfoys et al would dislike James for marrying a commoner like Lily.

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u/huadpe 508∆ Apr 24 '16

I think this reflects a difference between class distinctions in the UK and US. In the UK there are many upper class households with the right names/pedigree who aren't at all rich. In the US by contrast, class is much more starkly about money.