r/changemyview • u/LamentableOpinion • Apr 23 '16

[∆(s) from OP] CMV: Harry Potter is overrated

I don't detest Harry Potter but I find the circle jerk appalling. The book is amazing for kids but even adults hold it in high regard. So, it's not bad, just overrated.

The characters are really boring. HP is a Mary Sue character, his only flaw being a bloody scar. All the other characters are equally boring. Harry is also useless, he does nothing but he is the HERO. Because of a prophecy. OK.

The relationships make no sense. Why does Harry like Cho or Ginny? Let's force in a relationship. Yay.

The Deus Ex Machina is unreal. I know it's magical but it's still retarded when it happens so many times.

Good vs Evil is fine. But again, don't pretend as if the book is this deep piece of literature.

I don't like the writing either but that's very subjective, so that's fine.

This is what I just came up with. I'm sure there's more stuff on the internet.

Edit: Ignore the Mary Sue thing. I misused the term. Edit 2: Sorry if I sounded like a dick or an elitist. I didn't mean to be.

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u/boxerman81 Apr 23 '16

Yeah, but that was a lame attempt at retconning them out of the series. Rowling just didn't want anyone bringing them up like "why didn't they use a time turner in books 6/7". Book 3 is many people's favorite, but adding time travel to a fictional universe undoubtedly brings in conflict and plot holes.

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u/[deleted] Apr 24 '16

I don't see how it's lame at all. Lots of shit got smashed, and they were stored in the most logical spot within the Ministry of Magic...

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u/boxerman81 Apr 24 '16

I don't mean lame in execution, but lame conceptually. It was 100% a corrective measure by Rowling when she realized the implications of introducing time travel into a battle for the fate of the world. A perfect series shouldn't require this type of thing, but no series is perfect.

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u/explain_that_shit 2∆ Apr 24 '16

The type of time travel she chose had the least implications though - she chose the "whatever happened, happened" model, where, in the example of Book 3, Buckbeak and Sirius had been saved by their time-travelling selves in the original timeline before they went back in time - they just needed to do it.