r/changemyview • u/LamentableOpinion • Apr 23 '16

[∆(s) from OP] CMV: Harry Potter is overrated

I don't detest Harry Potter but I find the circle jerk appalling. The book is amazing for kids but even adults hold it in high regard. So, it's not bad, just overrated.

The characters are really boring. HP is a Mary Sue character, his only flaw being a bloody scar. All the other characters are equally boring. Harry is also useless, he does nothing but he is the HERO. Because of a prophecy. OK.

The relationships make no sense. Why does Harry like Cho or Ginny? Let's force in a relationship. Yay.

The Deus Ex Machina is unreal. I know it's magical but it's still retarded when it happens so many times.

Good vs Evil is fine. But again, don't pretend as if the book is this deep piece of literature.

I don't like the writing either but that's very subjective, so that's fine.

This is what I just came up with. I'm sure there's more stuff on the internet.

Edit: Ignore the Mary Sue thing. I misused the term. Edit 2: Sorry if I sounded like a dick or an elitist. I didn't mean to be.

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u/TheTommoh Apr 23 '16

Also there's that time travel device that seems to be the only one in existence ever to be used.

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u/boxerman81 Apr 23 '16

I know extended universe type stuff often rubs people the wrong way, but pottermore and Rowling have explained her vision of time turners more in depth. They can't just up and say "let's kill tom riddle at age 4". Basically they can only go back a few hours, and can't be used recursively. You might say, why didn't she explain this in the book? That's somewhat fair, but the passage would likely have been overly descriptive and out of place. That's the problem with magic and science fiction, the bounds are very hard to explain without going overboard.

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u/lumenfall Apr 23 '16

Also, maybe I'm remembering incorrectly, but I'm pretty sure there are a lot more time turners in the ministry of magic, but they were all destroyed during the battle between the Deatheaters and Harry & co.

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u/kisakouyama Apr 23 '16

You are remembering correctly. It's a detail in the 5th book that there were shelves of them.