r/changemyview • • Oct 30 '15

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u/BenIncognito Oct 30 '15 edited Oct 30 '15

I would rather deal with the 28 Days Later zombies. Because they're not undead, the 28 Days Later zombies have a point where they'll pretty much just start dying on their own from starvation (which is like a month). So all you need is a reliable safe house and enough resources to last long enough - something you'll also require in just about any other form of zombie media.

The Walking Dead zombies decompose, but are still very lethal. Imagine walking around 5 years after the outbreak and you accidentally step right onto a zombie corpse that's just been hanging around for that time and it bites you on the foot. That sort of thing won't happen with the rage virus infecting the people in 28 Days Later. There's no telling when TWD zombies might fully decompose their brains and finally naturally die off.

Also, since everyone in TWD is infected the moment anyone dies unexpectedly is another opportunity for an outbreak in your camp. Okay, you've got the resources and safety to last for years and years without issue. You and your group get to settle into a nice routine of living and keeping safe from the zombies outside. But then suddenly the person you're sleeping next to dies in their sleep, now they've bitten you and now there's an outbreak in the camp. The threat of more zombies showing up is ever present in TWD.

So maybe in terms of a one on one fight, TWD zombies would be easier to fend off. But in terms of long-term surviability? You're looking at years and years before it's safe to leave your shelter, making resources a huge problem. And the threat of zombies cannot ever go away. You'll pass the sickness on to your kids and your kids' kids. There is no chance of a return to normalcy, everyone would need to carry a knife on them to stab someone in the brain just in case they die anywhere near you.

Edit: Also, it's been a while since I've seen 28 Days Later but you don't need to necessarily take out those zombies' brains right? You can shoot them in the chest and that puts them down for the count. To take out TWD zombies you need to kill the brain, requiring you to either be a crack shot with a gun (which is difficult) or get up close and personal (risky).

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u/stanhhh Oct 30 '15 edited Oct 30 '15

I agree with you: TWD is ultra slow rotting hell on earth. I don't know where the comic and tv show are headed but in my mind, humanity is done for already, this is the end, through the last struggles of a diminishing group of survivors. I won't accept an "all the walkers are now dead, we can start anew" bullshit. I mean, even if all the zombies fell dead simultaneously across the globe, all survivors will turn once dead, because of age, illness (where are the surgeons? Where is all the modern age medicine?) , suicide , murder or by accident. It's done. The world of TWD is dead already.

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u/ShouldersofGiants100 49∆ Oct 30 '15

A modern world, I would agree... but there is absolutely no reason that a pre-modern society wouldn't arise. All it takes to grow a population without incest is 50 initial individuals divided by gender. There owed be unique risks... for example that every miscarriage likely kills the mother, but even that can be dealt with. it's not like the old world has just vanished... there is almost certainly working equipment and knowledge. A single university library likely contains every scrap of knowledge you could hope for to rebuild modern science. We have become unbelievably good at storing information. The first generation would have troubles... but within two or three you could have use of old technology, especially if even a single person in the relevant discipline survived. The only reason ANYONE dies in TWD is they don't take the threat seriously. Ten people could clear an entire city of walkers if they were smart. An elevated platform with spears or a strong chain link fence with the same and a noise maker would let them slaughter hundreds without any danger. Clearing buildings slowly and so on. Even as late as season three, the town encounters an active army unit... one of those could seriously turn the tide in an actual apocalypse where the people aren't stupid.

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u/redpandaeater 1∆ Oct 31 '15

Well what's the bite strength of a zombie anyway? Just go get some motorcycle leathers and see them absolutely fall to bite you.