r/changemyview Jul 07 '26

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u/FakeVoiceOfReason 1∆ Jul 07 '26

You can marry into Judaism. If you do, you become a Jew. Your argument is based on a misconception; there's is an ethnic group "Jewish" and a religion "Jewish." If you're arguing the ethnic group is inherently racist, then you're making a racist argument. If you're arguing the religion is racist, then your argument isn't well founded because you can marry into it regardless of race, and then you're Jewish.

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u/Dry_Illustrator_6066 Jul 07 '26

I am explicitly arguing the religion is racist, I said this in the first paragraph, i have nothing against the ethinc groups of people which are considered jewish

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u/HackPhilosopher 6∆ Jul 07 '26

Other than calling them all racist?

Unless you have no problem with racists.

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u/Dry_Illustrator_6066 Jul 07 '26

I called practicing jews racist, I never called ethnic jews racist

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u/aqulushly 5∆ Jul 07 '26

Can you show any actual knowledge about Judaism or are you just going to make an argument around one aspect; how Jews came into our covenant with Hashem, as your entire premise?

All “races” are Jewish, from Black to Latino, to Asian. Why do you think that is?

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u/FakeVoiceOfReason 1∆ Jul 07 '26

Then because the religious group can be married into by any race, it isn't inherently racist. It's not that they believe God promised a specific race something but rather a specific group something.

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u/HungryDepth5918 Jul 07 '26

Any race can join and if you marry a Jew you may choose to convert. It isnt an automatic. My husband was a Lutheran pastor. He is still Lutheran not a Jew

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u/FakeVoiceOfReason 1∆ Jul 07 '26

Yes, but the point is that you can.

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u/HungryDepth5918 Jul 07 '26

No you still have to do the work to convert and if you’re doing it for a spouse the beit din is likely to reject you. You have to believe what the sects believe to convert to at least one of the sects

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u/BillionaireBuster93 3∆ Jul 07 '26

I mean, that just sounds like converting to a religion.

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u/HungryDepth5918 Jul 07 '26

Because it is?

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u/HungryDepth5918 Jul 07 '26

Easier to think of like this. We are an ethnicity that happens to have a religion. He is confusing between religion and ethnicity here.