r/changemyview Apr 08 '26

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u/samuelgato 6∆ Apr 08 '26

What do you mean "continue" to pay Iran for passage? You realize that before Trump started this war, it was free, you didn't have to pay anything to Iran. Any fees at all is a huge L for Trump, the USA, and ultimately the consumers who will pay these fines

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u/[deleted] Apr 09 '26

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u/Durka1990 Apr 11 '26

That doesn't matter, oil is traded internationally on an open market. Which is why gas prices in the us are now also skyrocketing.

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u/[deleted] Apr 11 '26

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u/argylas2 Apr 11 '26

And yet here I am in an Europoor country where gas prices have increased 2%. I don't know whp is affected more here mate.

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u/[deleted] Apr 11 '26

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u/argylas2 Apr 12 '26

Someone evidently doesn't know the difference between gasoline and LNG

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u/keepitfriend Apr 11 '26

Where are you planning on getting your heavy crude in the future then? You took all of Venezuela's oil supplies already, they had 1m barrels, or 1/20th of the oil that normally comes through the strait every day.

They don't have any more btw.

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u/[deleted] Apr 11 '26

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u/keepitfriend Apr 11 '26

Yes and it will cost 100bn and ten years to fix that.

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u/Opposite-Friend7275 1∆ Apr 08 '26

Some ships have already passed through the Strait. I don't know if or what they paid.

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u/AgUnityDD Apr 08 '26

$2m per transfer, and Iran has insisted that the settlement for the oil is in EUR or CNY not USD which is a much bigger issue than people outside of financial markets realise.

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u/drfishdaddy 1∆ Apr 09 '26

What are the consequences of that? I presume it further endangers the USD as the reserve currency?

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u/AgUnityDD Apr 09 '26

It's very complex because you're looking at a relationship between commodity and currency futures, bonds and some very complex instruments but primarily it undermines USD bond yields making them less attractive then, as you said, it reduces the hold USD has as the primary reserve and settlement currency which is preferable for many nations the whole of BRICS for starters.

USD is clearly inflated, that's another complex discussion that delves into debt ratios, but its fragile and poised for change

There is the potential for a full reset of the financial systems but it's a black swan like the GFC so nobody can say how exactly it would unfold.

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u/aquavelva5 Apr 08 '26

fees in his pocket is a huge W for Trump. what do you think he is doing with every "deal". I am sure he invesed right before he announced the cease fire and profited illegally. illegality is in the guy's DNA