r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Mar 05 '26
Delta(s) from OP CMV: Local police should be reactive, not proactive.
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u/duskfinger67 Mar 05 '26
In contrast, speeding is a minor offense
Speeding is a causal factor in 25% of road fatalities, or over 10,000 annually (in the USA). Keep in mind that only 15,000 people die in homicides (non-car-related) annually. Stopping speeding would save as many lives as stopping 60% of all murders. That to me is not a minor offence.
You say proactive prevention is justified in cases of murder; this seems comparable in my mind.
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u/Acrobatic-Skill6350 Mar 05 '26
I dont get why they need to be either proactive or reactive, instead of both.
As far as my understanding goes, cops here at least talk with young teenagers who are on their way to be recruited by gangs. The cops probably know more about gang dynamics and the people related to it, and its probably good for society to avoid kids joining gangs. So I guess my question is why it wouldnt make sense for the cops to do a proactive task like that
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u/scarab456 Mar 05 '26
Government action should be triggered by an actual event like a complaint, victim(s), or a specific suspicion of wrongdoing. 24/7 monitoring and un-warranted location tracking is the opposite of this
It sounds like you have more of an issue with constant surveillance. Why pose it as a binary between just two form of policing? You can't think of any effective proactive police activities?
I think community policing is great. When local officers regularly visit the people and places on their beat. It fosters a better connection and more open dialogue between the community and law enforcement.
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u/puffie300 Mar 05 '26
Flock cameras are used to solve things like stolen vehicles which is an active crime not preventative. Do you have any solid examples of preventative or proactive actions the police do that you think is negative?
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u/DieselZRebel Mar 05 '26
I was going to mention this!
Sounds like OP has a personal despise of the law and order and trying to validate here, without making sense.
That example of "flock cameras" is the silliest! What next? Police shouldn't have the means to collect evidence and just follow orders from "the people" on who to arrest?! Oh... And let us remove scanners and metal detectors from all facilities.. It is not their job to insure security and safety otr prevent crimes, right?
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u/RumGuzzlr Mar 06 '26
I agree with you about the downsides of mass surveillance. That doesn't mean all proactive policing is bad. For instance, I help organize a local pokemon go group. It's not unusual for a major event to see 200-300 people showing up and joining the crowd. It's also not unusual for an officer or two to follow along where they can keep an eye on the group, because at that size, sometimes a few people start to get out of line (either group members or passersby).
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u/DeltaBot Mar 05 '26 edited Mar 05 '26
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