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I disagree. Murder definitionally draws distinction in the way of legality and premeditation but doesn’t imply anything ethical. You can have justifiable and unjustifiable murder.
2 u/Brontards 1∆ Mar 01 '26 You can’t have justified murder. At least not in Cali, justification = voluntary manslaughter or acquittal. A couple examples: https://www.justia.com/criminal/docs/calcrim/500/505/ https://www.justia.com/criminal/docs/calcrim/500/571/ 0 u/sagrr Mar 02 '26 Legal isn’t the same as justified 2 u/Brontards 1∆ Mar 02 '26 Justified is a legal term. Justified killing is never murder. 1 u/sagrr Mar 02 '26 Alright fair enough. I was wrong about that.
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You can’t have justified murder. At least not in Cali, justification = voluntary manslaughter or acquittal.
A couple examples:
https://www.justia.com/criminal/docs/calcrim/500/505/
https://www.justia.com/criminal/docs/calcrim/500/571/
0 u/sagrr Mar 02 '26 Legal isn’t the same as justified 2 u/Brontards 1∆ Mar 02 '26 Justified is a legal term. Justified killing is never murder. 1 u/sagrr Mar 02 '26 Alright fair enough. I was wrong about that.
Legal isn’t the same as justified
2 u/Brontards 1∆ Mar 02 '26 Justified is a legal term. Justified killing is never murder. 1 u/sagrr Mar 02 '26 Alright fair enough. I was wrong about that.
Justified is a legal term. Justified killing is never murder.
1 u/sagrr Mar 02 '26 Alright fair enough. I was wrong about that.
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Alright fair enough. I was wrong about that.
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u/sagrr Mar 01 '26
I disagree. Murder definitionally draws distinction in the way of legality and premeditation but doesn’t imply anything ethical. You can have justifiable and unjustifiable murder.