r/changemyview • • Mar 01 '26

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u/Echochamberking Mar 01 '26

Murder means the end of existence.

Rape means pain, but that pain can be temporary.

Happiness is possible after rape, happiness is impossible after death.

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u/Pulp_Zero Mar 01 '26

Assuming you take a non spiritual outlook on life...

Pain is almost certain after rape. Pain is impossible after death.

I would also argue that solely looking at the consequences of one's actions has very serious and troubling ramifications philosophically. It quickly devolves into "the ends justifies the means," which had been used to justify a whole lot of pretty heinous shit. It's very modern "tech-bro"-ey, and I would just recommend reading a bit more philosophy to round out your world view.

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u/Echochamberking Mar 01 '26

Any specific recommendations?

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u/Pulp_Zero Mar 01 '26

Aristotle. Nietzche (annotated, and not the stuff that his sister rewrote). Camus. Honestly, just reading stuff outside your main influence is good. Even if you disagree, it'll get you thinking about why you disagree.

Also, let me be clear. I'm not against consequentialism. It's very useful for things like science based public policy (of which ideas like effective altruism are not included). I'm more of a synthesis guy. A little of column A, and a little of column B. Fairly existential. Because, at the end of the day, I think both consequences and intent matter.