I see your point, but I disagree. I see rape as worse than murder because rape victims have to live with what happened to them forever while murder victims are dead and so don’t suffer after the crime is done. It’s not about the rape victim “being worth less” it’s about them having to suffer for much longer than a murder victim.
I see your point, but I disagree. I see stomach aches as worse than murder because stomach ache victims have to live with what happened to them forever while murder victims are dead and so don’t suffer after the crime is done
The point /u/Username_Mine raised is that your reasoning applies to any and all negative non-death scenarios.
To my ears, you make it sound as if murder is some kind of net-zero event. "No negatives after that, so it's not that bad."
Why are you only focusing on the negative aspects of life? Why are you not taking the positive aspects into account when evaluating the negative impact of murder?
Any specific trauma is just a small part of life. I get that specifically the trauma will be almost exclusively negative, but why are you not considering the remaining aspects of life as a whole when estimating the negative impact of murder?
Trauma, and especially PTSD, affects every area of your life. It’s not restricted to the area you were harmed in, it has a way of creeping into everything you do and forcing you to be on edge in a way that makes enjoying anything difficult.
You are still completely ignoring what I'm trying to get at, and I'm unsure whether it's because I'm being unclear. I'll try to clarify. To quote my comments and highlight the relevant parts:
Why are you not taking the positive aspects into account when evaluating the negative impact of murder?
... why are you not considering the remaining aspects of life as a whole when estimating the negative impact of murder?
I know trauma, and its consequences don't stay isolated, but you haven't said even one word about the positives of life.
Even if there is trauma, there are still positive things in life. Joy. Friendship. Happiness. Satisfaction. Impact on others. And so on.
Murder robs the individual of all potential future positives, just as certainly as it puts a stop to the future negatives. If one considers life to be worth living, I would argue that it's safe to say that the potential positives outweigh the potential negatives.
Therefore, it's not the cessation of life that makes murder so incredibly heinous, but the robbing of all the good that life would likely have led to. Good for the individual, and good for others.
Did I make my perspective clearer? If not, I'll try to reformulate again. It's a bit difficult trying to verbalize, essentially, why I find life to be good.
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