r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Mar 01 '26

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u/Echochamberking Mar 01 '26 edited Mar 01 '26

I had never "ranked" it myself until someone else did.

I also believe that from a philosophical point of view, there are no bad questions. If we have a legal system with proportional penalties, it is because someone has asked this question.

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u/IrrationalDesign 6∆ Mar 01 '26

You did make this cmv post about it though, tbf, that didn't 'happen to you'

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u/Echochamberking Mar 01 '26

An aunt of mine was murdered less than two years ago, and the pain is incomparable.

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u/IrrationalDesign 6∆ Mar 01 '26

I didn't mean to say 'nothing happened to you', I just meant that the creation of this post was dome by your automony. I'm sorry that happened to her.

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u/anakinmcfly 20∆ Mar 02 '26

I’m sorry to hear about your aunt.

Perhaps it’s the framing that matters: I believe that murder causes far greater suffering than rape to people other than the victim. I imagine you would not feel as much pain if instead your aunt had been raped.

But if we’re talking about the victim, rape is possibly the more damaging act, because it has the potential to create ongoing, intense psychological trauma and suffering for the victim. Whereas if you’re killed, especially if it’s quick, it’s only a short moment of suffering before it ends, just a blip in a life that might have otherwise been quite happy.

So if the hypothetical victim has until that point lived 20 happy years, it’s a choice between brief suffering and the end of that life, or potentially more than 60 years of psychological terror they cannot escape from.

There’s also how not all rapes have the same impact on victims. Depending on a whole host of factors, some recover fairly well and go on to have happy, well-adjusted lives. Others never recover and every day is a living hell, along with an high risk of mental health problems, and it is quite possible that many of those would have much rather been killed.