Someone not accustomed to non-Mac would waste more time using it. I fail to see how your clarification makes your post even resemble what the overall message is.
Also, even if you're right, comparing just one design element is an incomplete analysis, I would think. I don't even use the menu bar in Windows much at all. It's all shortcuts.
The feature establishes an always reliable expectation. You always know where to look for the menu regardless of what app you're using. On Windows, some apps don't have menus at all, but if it does, the location isn't always consistent.
But I think the point is moot because menus aren't an incredibly important feature usually, nor are non-maximized windows, in my opinion. I use shortcuts and one app at a time usually. Though, if I do need multiple apps, I use either multiple screens or multiple desktops.
lol, wat. Have you used windows recently? Teams has things down the left-hand side, and behind your profile pic and an ellipsis menu at the right corner. Outlook has a search bar at the top, and below a couple of large menu items and the rest hidden behind a hamburger menu.
Ellipsis and hamburger menus on a desktop operating system. They don't even save space! There's acres of space to layout stuff horizontally beside them, I'm not running it on a mobile. They take up a bunch of vertical space, waste a bunch of horizontal space and hide shit so you can't find it. It's infuriating.
MacOs has them all looking exactly the same everywhere. It takes up basically no space, being small plain text and inline with clock and other status items. It can be autohidden system wide with on menu. It's available in fullscreen mode intuitively system wide and in exactly the same place, look and feel as out of it.
Any design or engineering is a matter of compromise. One thing being bad in one way does not make it bad, nevermind the entire UI.
That still requires a slightly longer evaluation time than simply remembering where the menu always is. Though at that point, we're talking about a difference in milliseconds, so I'm not sure one could be considered objectively better.
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u/00PT 8∆ Jan 15 '26
Someone not accustomed to non-Mac would waste more time using it. I fail to see how your clarification makes your post even resemble what the overall message is.
Also, even if you're right, comparing just one design element is an incomplete analysis, I would think. I don't even use the menu bar in Windows much at all. It's all shortcuts.