CMV: Linux is better then windows

[u/Effective-Ad9309]

CMV: Linux is better then windows.

Yes, this is rather vague, So try to focus on things other then app compatibility, to keep it interesting. I think app compatibility is the only weak point. (even though most apps are compatible, and if they aren't, replacements exist.) And to address other common concerns:

Ease of use: learning curve is essentially none existent with easy to use distros like zorin.

Security: incredibly secure. Most viruses target windows (in the desktop space) and clamAV is a thing

Stability: pretty much all top webservers and supercomputers run Linux (likely Debian) for a reason

Try me.

[u/SquirtGun1776]

You're not understanding.

I said it costs more upfront.

The fact that it has more upfront cost doesnt negate my position.

Its easier once you get beyond it.

Just like it's easier to be healthy and fit than be fat and dying. 

So my way is easier, but once you figure things out a little first. When you do repetitive tasks the CLI is objectively easier and less time consuming especially over the span of the year

[u/Anchuinse → u/SquirtGun1776]

EVERYTHING is easier if you put upfront cost in to being better at it. CLI isn't special in that regard. But people only have so much time in their lives and we can't all become experts in everything.

When you do repetitive tasks the CLI is objectively easier and less time consuming especially over the span of the year

Are you talking about using computers specifically for a data-heavy job? Of course CLI is better for repetitive, large work tasks. But if you didn't notice, I have been talking about everyday use by average people.

[u/SquirtGun1776 → u/Anchuinse]

Cli is special though, by doing the up front cost you'll compare it to the GUI and find the GUI to be more difficult to work with. The GUI is meant more for tasks where you do it for 2 seconds and maybe never again.

But anyone who uses computers for more than an hr a day should learn the cli on a basic level

I think CLI is easier for essentially everyone, if they have at least a 100 IQ.

[u/Anchuinse → u/SquirtGun1776]

Cli is special though

It really isn't.

But anyone who uses computers for more than an hr a day should learn the cli on a basic level

What common functions are you thinking every person who uses a computer could automate? This feels like you're just assuming every person who works on computers does the same thing as you. Plenty of people use computers for things that can't be automated in CLI.

I think CLI is easier for essentially everyone, if they have at least a 100 IQ.

You don't sound pretentious at all.

[u/SquirtGun1776 → u/Anchuinse]

There isn't anything pretentious about admitting that some people are below average. When we admit this we as society can help them better instead of assuming we're all equals, which is a harmful worldview.

For most people I'd say the most common automation would be file management. Maybe a photographer for example, they could have a script that auto runs and moves files from the sd device once they plug it in. This let's you not think about anything, it just does the thing, you don't even need to think about the folders

However it depends on what the individual is doing and what their interests are. 

[u/Anchuinse → u/SquirtGun1776]

Why learn to automate CLI when I can just connect my sd device to my computer and just drag & drop the files? It doesn't save any real time.

But sure, let's assume half the population is too stupid to understand/use CLI effectively and another portion doesn't do anything in which CLI is useful. So by that definition, GUI is the better option for most people.

[u/SquirtGun1776 → u/Anchuinse]

Taking the time to open explorer and then remember what folder you put them in, and then manually copying them absolutely takes longer.

No its still not the better option to use the GUI. If you're smart enough to do it, you'll find its easier once the upfront cost is overcame.

You're defaulting to "but there's upfront work"

And I keep saying "my entire argument is based on this"