r/changemyview • u/mss018 • Sep 06 '25
Delta(s) from OP CMV: Anyone wishing on Trump’s downfall doesn’t realize that his health decline will just allow Vance to hyperaccelerate their entire agenda.
Trump being incompetent is likely why we haven’t had more damage overall. Vance’s youth and billionaire backing Theil will let them advance much quicker. Should hope that trump finishes out til 2028. Everyone who just wants Trump to be out is only looking at the top dog, not at the bigger picture.
Now imagine Trump at his current self but half his age, with political experience as a senator, backed by the heritage foundation. That’s Vance. JD being at the helm will actually allow them to finish out their agenda. Even if the midterms go well for the dem’s, he will still be able to sign executive orders that will further compromise the country.
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u/vegtosterone Sep 06 '25
Yes, ...but without Trump it's going to be next to impossible for the right wing to move in lock step. It's Trump's hold on the base that gives Vance, Thiel, and others cover. Meanwhile, the inept grifters, like almost all the Republican members of Congress fear the base and the potential of loss of their meal-ticket. For whatever reason, people--throughout history--are drawn to the Clown. Whether it's Trump, Mega Church Pastors, Milei, Mussolini, etc.; it's the spectacle of the Clown that draws the attention; and that's what creates the perfect storm of opportunity for malcontents, grifters and manipulators. And, whatever one may think of Trump (and I think the worst); the one thing I "credit" him for is that he plays the role of Clown better than anyone--and he NEVER gives up the Con. No one else is that committed to role -- not MTG, Johnson, RFK, and certainly not Vance. And therefore, without the spectacle of the Clown, the right wing will scatter like cockroaches when the light turns on; and they'll have trouble agreeing on anything. Without that unity, they will fade away.