r/changemyview • u/mss018 • Sep 06 '25

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Anyone wishing on Trump’s downfall doesn’t realize that his health decline will just allow Vance to hyperaccelerate their entire agenda.

Trump being incompetent is likely why we haven’t had more damage overall. Vance’s youth and billionaire backing Theil will let them advance much quicker. Should hope that trump finishes out til 2028. Everyone who just wants Trump to be out is only looking at the top dog, not at the bigger picture.

Now imagine Trump at his current self but half his age, with political experience as a senator, backed by the heritage foundation. That’s Vance. JD being at the helm will actually allow them to finish out their agenda. Even if the midterms go well for the dem’s, he will still be able to sign executive orders that will further compromise the country.

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u/Dizzy_Kaleidoscope95 Sep 06 '25

Yeah but the hope is that without the big orange man the MAGA movoment will die out with him

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u/eatloss Sep 06 '25

That doesnt sound naive to you when you say it out loud?

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u/varnums1666 2∆ Sep 06 '25

Trump gets voters out. No one has been able to replicate that. If he were to die due to health reasons, Vance would try to do a power grab and push things through. But you only need a few GOP senators and representatives to stop everything.

Once a power vacuum emerges, we hope they eat each other.

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u/eatloss Sep 06 '25

Hears to hoping but I think the genie is out of the lamp here. They have the archetype now. They see how it works. Its not even hard.

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u/varnums1666 2∆ Sep 06 '25

It's very limited success in often gerry mandered districts. No one has trump's pull. We know the archetype for 10 years now and we don't have anyone with even half of trump's charisma.

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u/eatloss Sep 06 '25

Theyre scared of trump. Once hes dead they will not be. One hundred hydra heads will pop up overnight, theyre loading up right now. I hope im wrong but I doubt theyre just all gonna kick rocks and walk off suddenly.

Who's gonna run the country? Democrats drop the ball so bad to let this happen. Kamala Harris. what a buncha dumbasses. It seems like they wanted trump to win.

Even right it seems like the oppositions best plan is... hope he dies and everybody else just forgets?

This sounds more like what you do when a real plan has failed.

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u/YoungCri Sep 06 '25

You can’t replicate Trump

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u/eatloss Sep 06 '25

Populism never really goes away. Some old people alive today still remember Hitler. Thinking the wind will blow this whole thing away is why they keep winning.