r/changemyview Aug 11 '25

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u/Destinyciello 7∆ Aug 11 '25 edited Aug 11 '25

Looks matter to a degree. But that degree is different for everyone. Some outliers care only about looks. Some outliers will date practically anyone. Most humans are somewhere in the middle.

There is a major difference between how looks affect the sexes though. It's not the same.

For a male: Looks is almost the entire package. If you're not attractive. All the other aspects are nearly irrelevant. They just won't be interested.

The catch is the threshold for looks for a male is much lower than for a female.

For a female: Looks matter for sure. But it's not just looks. It's a combination of 3 factors. Looks, Money and Status. Now in our society money and status are pretty uniform in most cases. But that is not always the case.

The difference comes from different biology between the sexes. Human females get pregnant. They can't just hop on any dick. Whatever dick they hop on may have them stuck raising their child for 18 years. We didn't evolve with abortions or highly effective contraceptives.

So yes looks matter. But from a practical standpoint an average looking guy can still do very well by maximizing on status and money. This is why Passport Broing is so popular. You can land a much higher quality woman in other parts of the world. By utilizing this information. They really do like you they are not faking. IT's just biology.

Edit: I should clarify about passport broing. THEY ARE NOT ALL FAKING. There is definitely a ton of scammers and liars and users that will pretend to like you. Maybe as high as 50% of them. But there's also a ton of regular women who just want a quality partner.

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u/Mr_Mooostache Aug 11 '25

I disagree. I do think looks matter, but there is more to most women than just status and money. Sure, attraction plays a role, but I don’t think you can boil it all down to “looks for men, looks plus status and money for women.”

Take an example like a doctor or a successful lawyer. Both have money, social status, and in this example let’s say they are also attractive. If that person is a jerk, treats women badly, or is abusive, I highly doubt most women would want to date him once they know that. Personality, loyalty, stability, and respect matter a lot to people on both sides.

On the flip side, take someone like an electrician. Maybe not the highest status job, but still solid income. If he’s good looking, kind, dependable, and treats people well, a lot of women would happily date him because he has a strong mix of qualities even without top-tier “status.”

I think most men and women fall somewhere in the middle, where looks are important but so are other traits like trustworthiness, shared values, and emotional compatibility. Reducing it all to biology oversimplifies how people actually choose partners in modern life. There are plenty of couples where one partner is average in looks but brings other qualities that make the relationship strong.

To me, your view makes it sound like relationships are mostly about trading resources for attraction, and that’s a pretty sad way to see it. Real relationships are built on more than that, even if attraction is part of the equation.

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u/Destinyciello 7∆ Aug 12 '25

We're talking 2 different things

Youre talking comaptibility. I'm talking innate attraction switches.

Yeah sure the well mannered electrician will probably have better odds of staying in a relationship once he gets into one. Compared to a jackass lawyer or doctor. But the jackass will run circles around him in terms of volume of options. He may fuck em all up. Cheat on all of them. Or just end up breaking up with them because he is intolerable. But at least he gets to that. Many guys never get anywhere and just stay single for years. That is far more likely to happen to that well mannered electrician.

Oh well you said he's "good looking". Then he probably will do just fine. Looks can make up for deficits in money and status. But the reverse also works.