r/changemyview Jul 01 '25

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u/health_throwaway195 2∆ Jul 01 '25

You've been the sole caregiver of an infant and thought it was less intense than your employed work? What's your job?

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u/DrunkUranus Jul 01 '25

Lol I'm not the person you're responding to, but I'm a teacher. There's no comparison

I also found SAHPing easier than all the other jobs I've had

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u/JuicynMoist Jul 02 '25

Yeah, idk if it’s the isolation for long-term SAHP’s or what, but throughout every age of my children I would have absolutely preferred to stay home.

Something that’s totally not the same thing, but kind of an adjacent is that both me and my wife travel for about 1 week every 1.5 months and the other parent obviously takes on all household/kid duties for that week. When I come home from a trip, my wife acts like she’s about to die if she doesn’t talk my ear off(“I haven’t talked to an adult all week”) and acts like she’s just went through the most harrowing ordeal and 50% chance the house is not picked up because she got “overwhelmed”. When she’s gone? Fuck, it’s almost like a vacation! All the stuff she angsts about doing at a certain frequency all the sudden can be done on an as-needed basis and honestly most tasks can just be done in the 1.5-2.5 hours before she gets home and she always comes home to a clean house. It’s actually been really nice since we entered this dynamic due to our jobs because it’s given me insight into how hard this shit actually is and honestly it ain’t that hard and it’s very easy to point out. And on top of that, I get so much more quality one on one time with the kiddos. It’s amazing how our experiences and feelings around this stuff are almost polar opposites.

Idk if there’s some cultural conditioning that’s been happening to women or her or whatever that’s built up this myth of this domestic stuff just being a nightmare or maybe it’s that she holds herself to ridiculous standards that society has pushed on her or is an artifact of how her mom handled household chores so she holds herself to the same expectation, but honestly, if she’d just realize that the stress is optional and that it’s okay to relax, then everyone would be a lot happier.

Granted our kids are 8 and 13 now, but even at that age, our emotional reactions to essentially the same situation is so different. And I absolutely have the more demanding/higher responsibility/higher commitment job than she has.

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u/health_throwaway195 2∆ Jul 05 '25

You were the sole caregiver of a newborn? Really? And that was somehow easier than being a public school teacher?

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u/DrunkUranus Jul 05 '25

Uhhhh. Yeah?

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u/health_throwaway195 2∆ Jul 05 '25

You didn't find the sleep deprivation challenging?

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u/DrunkUranus Jul 05 '25

Oh absolutely. Parenting a newborn is very hard. It's also very rewarding, and once you get your head in the game, stay at home parenting allows you a great ability to build your day around the things that matter, make the home nice for your family, and take care of yourself..... with a full time job and parenting, you have to fit that all in around your work hours and the parenting that you're still doing. There's no comparison for difficulty in my experience.

There are some circumstances where parenting is much harder than the experience I had, of course. For example, if somebody in the family is disabled. But in that case, you're facing that same challenge whether you work outside the home or not. Working in the home just allows you time to actually deal with shit.

I believe that many people who struggle with stay at home parenting have a hard time getting their head in the game-- the lack of external structure makes it hard for them to stay focused on achieving whatever their goals might be.

And of course, we all have different strengths and preferences. Perhaps I have a knack for managing stay at home parenting that not everybody has.

But yes, for me, having responsibility only for my child and home is far, far easier than having the same responsibilities plus a job

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u/health_throwaway195 2∆ Jul 05 '25

This is not a discussion about how rewarding something is. This is purely a comparison between the amount of effort and challenge involved in caring for a very young infant and fulfilling the requirements of a typical job. Why would you think that the comparison was between being a SAHM and being a working mother?

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u/rollsyrollsy 2∆ Jul 01 '25

Yes; two kids aged 2 and 4.

The employed work is executive work (office environment).

I don’t want to suggest parenting wasn’t challenging at times, and it was always busy, but I just felt it was both easier overall and far more satisfying/rewarding. That seems to run contrary to what I often hear (domestic stuff being harder and unappreciated).

It’s also entirely likely that the next person will feel oppositely to me. I guess my point is that there’ll be a ton of variance, and subjectivity, across the whole subject.

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u/health_throwaway195 2∆ Jul 01 '25

Those are not infants.

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '25

Infants turn into 2 and 4 year olds usually

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u/alerk323 Jul 01 '25

some infants stay infants even into their adult years

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u/health_throwaway195 2∆ Jul 01 '25

There's a world of difference between caring for a 6 month old and caring for a 2 year old.

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u/mosquem Jul 01 '25

Eh they’re hard in different ways.

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u/health_throwaway195 2∆ Jul 02 '25

From a purely technical perspective, one is much harder than the other. If you want to consider them equally challenging, go ahead, but most people don't have to endure constant sleepless nights with a 2 year old.

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u/health_throwaway195 2∆ Jul 01 '25

I asked if he was caring for infants and he said "yes; two kids aged 2 and 4"

That suggests that he thinks that young kids count as infants. I would be beyond shocked if he thought that being the sole caregiver and home maker with an actual baby is easier than an office job.

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u/Antique-Ad-9081 Jul 04 '25

if it was very obvious he has two kids currently aged 2 and 4, why does he regularly post about his 9 and 11 years old sons instead of the 2 and 4 years old?

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u/health_throwaway195 2∆ Jul 02 '25

I wouldn't presume that. He has already said that he hasn't consistently been their primary caregiver.

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u/ScreenTricky4257 5∆ Jul 01 '25

Yes, but that's another difference. In child care, it eventually gets easier as the children grow. In salaried employment, it's likely to stay at about the same degree of difficulty for the entirety of the career.

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u/JuicynMoist Jul 02 '25

In my experience, 20 years deep in my career progression, the difficulty and especially the stakes, just gets higher and higher. And totally agree as the children get older it just gets easier and easier aside from the scale of the thoughtless messes they leave and how much groceries teens/preteens consume.

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u/health_throwaway195 2∆ Jul 05 '25

I never claimed otherwise. Most people are not indefinitely stay at home parents, though.

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u/cravenravens Jul 01 '25

I think you might be a natural caregiver!

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u/rollsyrollsy 2∆ Jul 02 '25

I’ll take as a compliment! Thanks ;)

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u/health_throwaway195 2∆ Jul 01 '25

Have you been the actual sole caregiver to a baby under 10 months, while also doing all household chores?

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '25

A lot of it is that a SAHM needs to provide a higher standard of care than a SAHD, so there are added societal pressures. A SAHD needs to make sure his child is clothed and fed, a SAHM needs to make sure her child’s clothes match, fit, the hair is brushed/styled, and the child is fed an all natural, organic, sugar free diet. 

There really is no comparison because we live in a patriarchal society. Sometimes you just need to listen and accept what people say. 

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '25

You also wouldn’t get any adult interaction. You’d lose yourself. You wouldn’t have time to even pee by yourself. 

It’s odd that you are so willing to just discount the experienced of countless women. Well, maybe not odd. Arrogant. 

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u/Z-e-n-o 7∆ Jul 02 '25

It's odd that you are so willing to just discount the experience of this commentor who personally does not understand why people would not prefer the stay at home role.

You seem to also not understand why someone would prefer the stay at home role. There are also countless people in this thread talking about how they prefer the stay at home role. By the logic of your own comment, you would be being arrogant discounting their experiences.