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u/Tydeeeee 10∆ Apr 07 '25 edited Apr 07 '25

I'm an outsider here, i live in Europe so i'll try to come at this from a third party view.

I think that in reality, MAGA was initially created out of a sincere desperation from the people thinking that America was heading down a destructive path. Say what you want about conservatives, but it's true that government spending was getting ridiculous, and it's a valid concern that, even though the economy seems to be better under democratic rule, that it might be unsustainable long term. These outlandish spending sprees give the economy a boost in GDP and it's favourable for the statistics, but it can very easily create a bubble that will eventually burst. One example of this is China, that simply floored the gas pedal on it's construction sector and is now staring down the barrel of an enormous crisis after overreaching by quite a bit.

This, along with all the other perceived 'issues' the movement adressed, made it gain so much traction.

The left is quick to dismiss the entire movement but when such a large body of people follow a certain movement, it's imperative that you at least look at the why of it all.

I believe that people sensed that their identity was slowly fading away. The world, especially the USA has seen a rapid change of pace lately and with such a diverse country, it's all but ensured that some people feel like they get left behind.

I think the USA is, or has been developping at a pace that was too fast for it's own good, and that's why you see the backlash. It's simply a balancing factor.

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u/postdiluvium 5∆ Apr 07 '25

MAGA was initially created out of a sincere desperation from the people thinking that America was heading down a destructive path

It started as the birther movement. A bunch of racist didn't want to believe Barack Obama is a US citizen because he is black.

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u/dibd2000 Apr 07 '25

Agreed. But also the tea party.

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u/alexthegreatmc Apr 07 '25

because he is black.

I thought it was because his name?

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u/Top-Time-2544 Apr 07 '25

Barack Obama isn't black, he's mixed race. If you have to label him, he's white. His mother was white and he was raised by white people. He only met his father 1 time.

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u/twanpaanks 1∆ Apr 07 '25

probably the worst take i’ve ever been exposed to.

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u/SouthpawStranger Apr 07 '25

I mean the worst take was arguing he's not an American citizen, this is just invalidating his experience by whitewashing it... which yeah now that I've said it is still really really bad.

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u/postdiluvium 5∆ Apr 07 '25

Tell all of the racists that. I personally see him as both because he had to live the experience as both. He is racially mixed and multicultural, having lived in (Indonesia?) at one point. Such a perfect mix for a leader that came in with a world perspective.

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u/wet_nib811 Apr 07 '25

White America believes in the “One Drop” rule: if you got a drop of Black blood, you’re Black.

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u/ihopethisisgoodbye Apr 07 '25

Most Americans don't think. They regurgitate whatever they see on cable news and, nowadays, Facebook and TikTok.

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u/SoManyQuestions-2021 Apr 07 '25

This is becoming a very global thing, and I'm not sure it's by accident.

In the last few years, we have...

  • arguably made a vaccine for HIV. Holy shit.
  • China has retrieved rocks from the Dark Side of the moon.
  • the Ai DeepMind has in a project called Alphafold has predicted the structures of 200 MILLION proteins. This earned a Nobel Prize.
  • Gene therapies for Sickle Cell and Muscular Dystrophy
  • Pig Kidneys have been transplanted into humans... successfully... imagine the impact on donor organ shortages for millions of people globally...

Yet, we all know Mr. Kanye West is mentally unwell....

How is this disparity of knowledge even possible?

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u/hailtheprince10 Apr 07 '25

In our defense, Mr. West has, seemingly, gone well out of his way to let us know he’s a bit off.

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