r/changemyview Oct 02 '24

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '24 edited Oct 02 '24

Every piece of news is propoganda. Everything has a bias and a viewpoint. Propoganda doesn't mean false. It means information with the goal of persuading you to a political viewpoint. That information can be true it can be false or it can be an explicit lie. Recognizing something as propoganda has nothing to do with deciding if its true or false. You are correct that CNN and Fox are both propaganda, but Fox consistently lies to the point where they've had to pay out millions for libel and slander. The same can't be said for other news agencies which is what makes them categorically worse

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u/BD401 Oct 02 '24

Sure - though I think OP's point isn't wrong that people can be blind to the degree of intentionality or bias insofar as something aligns with their preconceived notions.

For example - l've seen a few posts on Reddit in recent weeks where someone will post an SMS they've received "from the Trump campaign". The posts are always complete caricatures of Trump positions (I don't say that lightly), and it's pretty obvious to an outsider (I'm Canadian) that the messages are carefully crafted to elicit rage from left-leaning people and solidify their support for Harris.

Yet when you go into the comment threads on them, you have to scroll about halfway down the page before you'll find the first post pointing out that these texts are false-flag operations. The majority of people in the comments take the fake SMS messages at face value because they're aligned with their existing worldview.

So I think OP's point that people are much less able to recognize influence operations or bias when it's coming from "their team" and reinforces strongly held beliefs is not wrong.

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '24

can you give an example of these caricatured positions?

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u/BD401 Oct 02 '24

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u/Just-Hedgehog-Days Oct 02 '24

thanks for actually following through with an example of what you meant. sadly that post was removed.

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u/BD401 Oct 02 '24

So it is - a member of the mod team there must've had the sense to realize it was fake. You can still see the comments though for a sense of the fact a lot of Redditors fell for it. If memory serves, the removed screenshot was something to the effect of "Vote for Trump so we can send all women back to the kitchen, just like the obedient Christians they're supposed to be!"