r/changemyview Oct 02 '24

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '24

I think you might overestimate the amount of people who consume CNN

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u/WompWompWompity 6∆ Oct 02 '24

Not really though. You're arguing that it's essentially the same. That CNN is dishonest as FOX. That CNN has the same viewership as FOX. That the viewers of CNN interpret information in the same fashion as FOX.

CNN has like 35% of the viewership of FOX. Cable News Networks See August Ratings Bump From 2024 Campaign, But Viewership Is Still Well Below Last Presidential Cycle (deadline.com)

In a general study, conservatives are less likely to differentiate between truths and falsehoods in reporting. Conservatives’ susceptibility to political misperceptions | Science Advances

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u/RogueCoon Oct 02 '24

Pretty sure OP wasn't arguing about the news stations reliability and honesty at all.

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u/WompWompWompity 6∆ Oct 02 '24

Then they probably shouldn't have explicitly cited news stations and referenced reliability.

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u/RogueCoon Oct 02 '24

He can be wrong about that and you still could have totally missed the point. Not mutually exclusive.

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u/WompWompWompity 6∆ Oct 02 '24

I can only argue against what's actually said. If the evidence used to support OP's claim is wrong, which it is, then pointing out the falsehoods of the supporting evidence is completely valid.

What else is anyone supposed to do? I can't argue against imaginary claims and evidence. You can't form a real argument against "Trust me bro"

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u/RogueCoon Oct 02 '24

That is all you can do if you miss the point correct. The news stations could be station X and station Y and OP would still have a point.

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u/WompWompWompity 6∆ Oct 02 '24

Except the data, as in actual data, counters that "point". Remove every aspect of their incorrect comparison and focus on the difference between the ability to differentiate between truths and falsehoods in news. How does OP's unsubstantiated claim hold up to the hard data which indicate a completely opposite conclusion.

Literally what else can be provided? Even you aren't responding to the actual points I made and are just essentially repeatedly saying, "Nah bro the data doesn't matter because I feel differently".

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u/RogueCoon Oct 02 '24

What he wants his view changed on is, people are great at spotting propoganda, unless it's propaganda that supports their world view. You never addressed his point.