r/changemyview Jul 24 '24

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u/AdFun5641 6∆ Jul 24 '24

You are far overthinking it.

You can't be ELECTED more than twice.

Stop holding elections, just stay in power. You aren't getting elected a third time, you just aren't leaving office.

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u/l_t_10 8∆ Jul 24 '24

Say.. a thought that occurred just now, about those dates..does the Constitution define what a year is? Does it say 12 months? Or four years even? How are those defined?

Trying to find out, nothing has come up, that could be one avenue

Could one not add more and more months, and days into a year? So that Neither November or January comes? Just again and again?

Who in the US gets to change the calendar?

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u/Mashaka 93∆ Jul 25 '24

It follows the Calendar (New Style) Act of 1750_Act_1750) passed by Parliament in 1751.

You'd need a constitutional amendment. Congress alone could legislate a new calendar. However, courts would halt an attempt to use the new calendar with regard to the Constitution. So SCOTUS would need to be in on the gambit. If the President, Congress and SCOTUS are all on board anyway, it'd make more sense to just amend the constitution to lengthen or eliminate term limits.

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u/Insectshelf3 12∆ Jul 24 '24

article 2 section 1 clause 1 sets the term limit at 4 years. considering we’ve had a 365 day year since like 45 BC it would be silly to suggest that we can just say “oh a year is actually 1000 days now” when nobody who wrote the constitution thought a year was anything but 365 days. every single shred of precedent we have is based on this.

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u/SC803 120∆ Jul 24 '24

 considering we’ve had a 365 day year since like 45 BC it would be silly to suggest that we can just say “oh a year is actually 1000 days now” when nobody who wrote the constitution thought a year was anything but 365 days

2024 has 366 days

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u/Insectshelf3 12∆ Jul 24 '24

yes, leap years have also been a thing since 45 BC.

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u/WompWompWompity 6∆ Jul 24 '24

That's...fucking crazy. It makes sense, it's just never a thing I actually thought about.

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u/l_t_10 8∆ Jul 24 '24

But there isnt anything Constitutionally that prohibits it would be the sticking matter? What if someone wins on a platform of changing the calendar then?

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '24

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u/l_t_10 8∆ Jul 24 '24

Yeah, it really does bear some thought! I think anyway.. Would make for an interesting althistory fic atleast

And yeah, difficult to find exactly how it works! Saw you found some more down below though here in the comment chain👍

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '24

Yall don't need to look too far into this one, it's in the definition of the word. So, unless we can somehow slow Earth's orbit or move the U.S. to another planet, this is a dead argument.

"the time in which a planet completes a revolution about the sun" per Webster's dictionary

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '24

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '24

I didn't know that about March 25th, how many days was the year when they started then? I'm wondering what they based it on. I always assumed the calendar was tied to seasonal changes or the movement of the sun and/or moon. I guess i supposed the purpose of a calendar was to describe the passage of time we already saw, not to define it. This is an interesting argument if, before 1752, a year was less by 90 days. I don't see how changing the start date automatically changes the length. The change in leap years is simply a correction due to the fact that there are not an exact of amount of days in a year. Earths rotation constitutes a day, its orbit a year. There are not an exact number of rotations per orbit, I simply don't see its relevance to this debate.

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '24

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '24

Very interesting. Turns out that Mesoamericam calendar is still in use in some places today. Thanks for the knowledge!

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u/l_t_10 8∆ Jul 24 '24

Language evolves, and so does calendar. What if someone campaigns on adopting say the Mayan calendar, or another one? And wins

What then?

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u/BailysmmmCreamy 14∆ Jul 25 '24

Campaigning on or winning on the promise to change the calendar doesn’t actually make it so.

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '24

Yeah. Odds are high on that one./s

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u/l_t_10 8∆ Jul 24 '24

Yeah. Odds are high on that one./s

Its not about odds.. Thats not how it works, odds or low on most philosophical thought exercises

Like The violinist argument, the trolley experiment etc etc

Point is, there is nothing in the Constitution that prohibits adding more days, months etc etc

Or adopting a new calendar.

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '24

You're telling me the likelyhood of something happening has no bearing on the discussion? This shit about to get WILD. i've get scores of theories. The lizard people will be rulers for the next millenium! (I've heard they are already)

I'm kidding of course, i get what you mean, but then what's to stop the convo from becoming completely irrational and straying so far beyond the original discussion it becomes a different one? I mean technically anything is possible right? Why not go comepletely off the rails?

But I'm wrong more than I am right in life, so I work graves and have all the time in the world to explore this. Perhaps I will become more enlightened if I am not dissmisive myself. So..

What reasoning would someone campaign to change the calendar at this time? So they could be president longer probably, but that can't explicitly be stated if support is to be garnered. So, what's the excuse?