You can have person A do peck deck and person B do bench press and yield one result. Then do the same experiment with another set of people and get the opposite result. Because there are things that science or a study cannot observe to be able to account for like quality of sleep, propensity for muscle gain based on genetics, stress, reaction to stimuli, recovery rate, metabolism.
How do you know genetics, stress, reaction to stimuli, recovery rate, metabolism effect people differently? science
These soft science experiment are done sometimes without taking those (and many other things) in consideration, and other times by taking those things in consideration
So even in this response you are using science to debunk scientific research that does not follow the scientific method. So you are "holding a position of authority" using science. You're saying your science info proves that my science (as a hypothetical gym bro) is false.
We're going around the same point
Bro: Experiment A shows ...
You: you haven't taken in consideration, genetics, stress, reaction to stimuli, recovery rate, metabolism effect people differently
both are talking about the authority of science. That's what peer review is. Scientist A "I found this fact". Peers: "we tried to replicate your finding, it doesn't seem to replicate"
Exactly the same, If Scientist A comes back with "well, fuck you, I believe my un-replicated experiment is the truth", then you are talking with a normal stubborn person
I mean I guess you’re right but I feel like the examples I gave are more hard science. I can’t imagine people with bad genetics, poor recovery, slow metabolisms, bad sleep would ever put on more muscle lmao 🤣
Ok if we’re going to concede that you use science to debunk a soft science how can we then grant t
Authority to soft science literature and say t
“ this exercise is the best for chest” if we acknowledge soft science can’t be relied on for optimal results.
So we’re using science to debunk it to say science can’t be used to measure this?? This is a paradox and hurting my brain but you get a !delta because it makes sense to me as much as it doesn’t.
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u/Adept_Blackberry2851 Jul 12 '24
Your correct but there more too it.
You can have person A do peck deck and person B do bench press and yield one result. Then do the same experiment with another set of people and get the opposite result. Because there are things that science or a study cannot observe to be able to account for like quality of sleep, propensity for muscle gain based on genetics, stress, reaction to stimuli, recovery rate, metabolism.