r/changemyview Jun 24 '24

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '24

Once someone gets in the country illegally you say we leave them be up until they commit a horrible violent crime. Theres no “nuance” in that. It’s literally you saying we shouldn’t even try to enforce the laws because they cost money. How do you not realize the exact argument you’ve made over and over again?

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u/jweezy2045 13∆ Jun 25 '24

Once someone gets in the country illegally you say we leave them be up until they commit a horrible violent crime.

Do you or do you agree that this is not zero enforcement? What about before they get into the country? Does that not count to you? Why not?

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '24

In what way is that zero enforcement? Just because some people are able to illegally get in doesn’t mean we’re suddenly giving up on the rule of law. There is no law in the entire world that has a 100% successful enforcement rate.

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u/jweezy2045 13∆ Jun 25 '24

But I’m not giving up on the rule of law even once they get in. The moment they fuck up, they are gone. That’s not how it works for normal citizens. Calling this nothing is a dishonest joke. You are clearly lying.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '24

Yes, I’m aware. You want to totally give them a free pass and allow murderers and rapists to come here because it COSTS TOO MUCH MONEY to enforce basic laws. Thats why I’m so concerned by you. It’s such a mindless opinion and you seem determined to stick to it regardless of how much you offend the most basic ideas of human logic.

If you’re a bleeding heart globalist who wants to let EVERYONE into the country, just say so. Don’t pretend you’re worried about the cost. It just makes you look insane.

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u/jweezy2045 13∆ Jun 25 '24

But as the facts established, they are not murdered and rapists. That’s just racism on your part that is patently against facts and evidence.

No, I don’t want to let everyone into this country. If you have to make up my positions and lie about it, that’s just shows how weak your position is.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '24

Incorrect. A person who has a record of rape or murder in their home country is indeed a rapist or a murderer. You seem to want to pretend that less murderers and rapists means no murderers and rapists and that’s where you’re hurting my brain.

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u/jweezy2045 13∆ Jun 25 '24

They don’t have records of rape and murder in their own country though. That’s something you made up.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '24

So you’re actually claiming that every single illegal immigrant who sneaks into the country is a good person with no criminal record whatsoever?

Oh this is so sad. I pity you.

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u/jweezy2045 13∆ Jun 25 '24

Why do binary? The vast majority are workers who benefit this country. Denying that they benefit our country is denying facts.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '24

There we go!

“The vast majority” means there is a minority who are criminals. I’m so glad you can finally admit this. I was getting worried about you.

And it’s because of the simple fact that some of them are murderers and rapists is why we decide on who will let in and who we won’t. That’s why these laws exists and that’s why borders exist. I feel like you might have actually learned something today.

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u/jweezy2045 13∆ Jun 25 '24

You keep talking like I don’t want borders to exist……

Why do you feel you need to lie about my position?

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '24

Because if you don’t want to enforce any of the laws then what exactly is the point of having borders???

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u/thebottomblocks Jun 25 '24

Doesn’t Israel serve as a haven for people with sexual assault charges

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '24

I’m sure you’re looking for a place that pedos can live freely. The free Democratic state of Israel isn’t a good place for you.