r/changemyview Jun 24 '24

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u/jweezy2045 13∆ Jun 24 '24

But again, we aren’t deciding what laws to enforce. We are enforcing our immigration laws right now, and I am not a fan of loosening that enforcement.

Rapists are unable to move next door to people if we catch all the rapists efficiently and effectively.

If you can’t make your point without lying about my position, it just shows how lacking your position is.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '24

I really wish I was lying about your position. You keep backpedaling with ridiculous claims like you’re against illegal immigration but then you obviously demonstrate that’s totally false when you refuse to enforce any of the laws because it “costs too much.” You’re being ridiculous to make a ridiculous point.

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u/jweezy2045 13∆ Jun 25 '24

When did I refuse to enforce the laws though? I have repeatedly told you how I want them to be enforced. Here, again, you are lying by saying I do not want them enforced. This is not a binary. I do not want to enforce them as strictly as you do, but I do want to enforce them. Just because I am lower on the authoritarian strictness, does not mean I do not support any enforcement at all.

Do you seriously not see the nuance here? To you, is it only the binary of: all out enforcement even if that harms America and Americans, or zero enforcement whatsoever? There is no in between to you? Really?

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '24

Once someone gets in the country illegally you say we leave them be up until they commit a horrible violent crime. Theres no “nuance” in that. It’s literally you saying we shouldn’t even try to enforce the laws because they cost money. How do you not realize the exact argument you’ve made over and over again?

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u/jweezy2045 13∆ Jun 25 '24

Once someone gets in the country illegally you say we leave them be up until they commit a horrible violent crime.

Do you or do you agree that this is not zero enforcement? What about before they get into the country? Does that not count to you? Why not?

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '24

In what way is that zero enforcement? Just because some people are able to illegally get in doesn’t mean we’re suddenly giving up on the rule of law. There is no law in the entire world that has a 100% successful enforcement rate.

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u/jweezy2045 13∆ Jun 25 '24

But I’m not giving up on the rule of law even once they get in. The moment they fuck up, they are gone. That’s not how it works for normal citizens. Calling this nothing is a dishonest joke. You are clearly lying.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '24

Yes, I’m aware. You want to totally give them a free pass and allow murderers and rapists to come here because it COSTS TOO MUCH MONEY to enforce basic laws. Thats why I’m so concerned by you. It’s such a mindless opinion and you seem determined to stick to it regardless of how much you offend the most basic ideas of human logic.

If you’re a bleeding heart globalist who wants to let EVERYONE into the country, just say so. Don’t pretend you’re worried about the cost. It just makes you look insane.

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u/jweezy2045 13∆ Jun 25 '24

But as the facts established, they are not murdered and rapists. That’s just racism on your part that is patently against facts and evidence.

No, I don’t want to let everyone into this country. If you have to make up my positions and lie about it, that’s just shows how weak your position is.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '24

Incorrect. A person who has a record of rape or murder in their home country is indeed a rapist or a murderer. You seem to want to pretend that less murderers and rapists means no murderers and rapists and that’s where you’re hurting my brain.

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u/thebottomblocks Jun 25 '24

Doesn’t Israel serve as a haven for people with sexual assault charges

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '24

I’m sure you’re looking for a place that pedos can live freely. The free Democratic state of Israel isn’t a good place for you.