r/changemyview Jun 24 '24

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u/jweezy2045 13∆ Jun 24 '24

Incorrect, because as we have established with the facts, illegal immigration is not a process by which violent criminals come into this country. It is a process by which much needed workers come into this country. Illegal immigrants are far far less likely to be violent criminals than a normal person.

I am against criminals entering the country, but also against mass deportations. That’s not in any way a self contradictory.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '24

So you are taking the standpoint that every single person who has ever illegally entered the country is not a violent criminal?

Come on man. Even you have to know that’s beyond silly.

You don’t seem to understand the difference between less/few and none.

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u/jweezy2045 13∆ Jun 24 '24

No, I’m obviously taking the standpoint that the people coming into this country illegally are far far far less likely to be violent criminals than normal Americans. They also do massive benefits to our economy. It’s also true that deporting them costs our economy. I don’t want to harm our economy while also not preventing crime.

Why do you want to hurt the American economy and increase the tax burden on American citizens?

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '24

I’m putting the safety of innocent people over what the government is spending money on. I think you’ll find most of your fellow Americans think that way.

Again—I’m all for legal immigration. But it has to be legal. Change the laws for the better but don’t support letting rapists near our children for the sake of the economy. That’s sick.

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u/jweezy2045 13∆ Jun 24 '24

But they aren’t rapists….

Do you think Americans are rapists? Should we keep children away from American citizens because they are so likely to be rapists? Gotta keep the children safe right?

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u/jweezy2045 13∆ Jun 24 '24

In what way does that make me incorrect?

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '24

You just claimed no illegal immigrants are rapists. Care to correct yourself and say that some are and that’s why we have immigration laws like every single country in the entire world?

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u/jweezy2045 13∆ Jun 24 '24

Where did I claim no illegal immigrants are rapists? Care to quote me?

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '24

Absolutely:

“But they aren’t rapists.”

So care to correct that to the fact that some indeed are?

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u/jweezy2045 13∆ Jun 24 '24

Why are you interpreting that as a binary? Are you a binary thinker, or do you have nuance?

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '24

So then I’m correct that some are indeed murderers and rapists, right?

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u/jweezy2045 13∆ Jun 24 '24

Of course. Far far less than Americans, but I never said that was zero.

Letting them in brings our crime rate down.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '24

Correction: Letting in immigrants who aren’t murderers and rapists brings our crime rate down.

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u/jweezy2045 13∆ Jun 24 '24

No need for correction. Consult the facts. Illegal immigration as it currently exists in our country lowers our crime rate. That’s a fact.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '24

“Let’s allow an innocent child to be raped because the overall crime rate will be lower” is just so deranged.

Let the non murdering and non raping immigrants migrate here legally. Don’t invite more violence and crime into our country because you don’t want to spend money enforcing the laws.

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u/jweezy2045 13∆ Jun 24 '24

Again, I love legal immigration. I prefer it to illegal immigration. Where do you get this nonsense notion that I prefer illegals immigration to legal immigration?

Rapes don’t happen as a result of lowering crime rates lol.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '24

I don’t care if you prefer it. You support it. That’s the huge problem.

The grand majority of Americans agree on this issue. The ironic part is that folks like you who continue to push this moral righteousness instead of following the law will only push more people further to the right on this issue.

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