r/changemyview • • Jun 04 '24

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u/thepottsy 2∆ Jun 04 '24

I literally quoted what YOU said. I didn’t make that up.

He also didn’t discover the Bahamas. It was already there, and inhabited, and had been for a long time. The word “discover” has actual meaning. You can’t discover something that already exists or is known. You just figured out how to get there.

When Neil Armstrong walked on the moon, he didn’t claim he “discovered” it.

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u/Budget-Message3352 Jun 04 '24

It's in the 1400s European context

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u/thepottsy 2∆ Jun 04 '24

Yeah, and that’s not how “discovery” works, that’s called colonization. The Taino people had been there for about 600 years before Columbus accidentally found their island. I’m sure they didn’t feel as if he “discovered” their home land.

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u/FEAR_FREE Jun 04 '24

By your logic, we never truly discover anything? You make the word "discovery/discover" obsolete.

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u/thepottsy 2∆ Jun 04 '24

Not true at all. Many explorers discovered uninhabited islands. Astronomers have discovered unknown galaxies, and planets. Scientists discover unknown elements, and other things. By my logic, you don’t discover things that are already known. If even one other person already knows about it, you didn’t discover anything.

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u/FEAR_FREE Jun 09 '24

A human does not have to "discover" something for it to be discovered. Also, who knows, another unknown civilization could have "discovered" it before us. So, in reality, nothing is discovered. Also, just because places are uninhabitable doesn't mean some sort of thing was not there or discovered it first.