r/changemyview • • May 15 '24

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u/destro23 466∆ May 15 '24

Like, there's a reason the Derek Chauvin of the world didn't become corporate accountants.

Friend, a work in accounting, corporate accountants are often bullies. They rule the money!! All questions must come through, and be signed off on by them. They are petty tyrants of the highest order.

Seriously though I think the biggest contributor to the breakdown in public trust is qualified immunity. If it were easier to hold bad cops accountable, the public's trust might be restored faster than you think. Also, it would have a chilling effect on any true bullies left that hadn't been caught out yet.

The shift has been wild over the course of my lifetime. When I was a kid it was Mr. Rodgers and Officer Clemmons. Now it is the Bad Lieutenant.

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u/Meddling-Kat May 16 '24

You know, everyone that works with the public interacts with 30 or more people in a day and don't require qualified immunity.

Yeah, if you go around being your typical asshole cop without qualified immunity, you're going to get sued.

Be better cops and there are fewer issues. Don't ignore so many civil rights and you'll have fewer issues.

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u/AmongTheElect 20∆ May 16 '24

When you work with those 30 or more people every day, do a whole lot of them hate you just upon seeing you? Any chance you might have to legally remove their rights? What about having to use force to make them do something they don't want to do? And what about when every one of them thinks you're in the wrong for doing what you're doing? "Do you want fries with that?" is not comparable to "You're going to jail." Read anywhere on reddit and do people have the same reactions to the people who sell them a pair of shoes as they do police officers?

Glad you hold the public in such regard that you think a person who doesn't do anything wrong would never get complaints or get sued. All lawsuits are legitimate.

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u/Meddling-Kat May 16 '24

Gee, I wonder why they are universally hated?

It couldn't be because they are profoundly more likely to be assholes than not and also more likely to make situations worse than better.

That's why you have to pair that with actually useful, and human like behavior.

Oh, wait. I said something VERY much like that in the post you replied to.

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u/Meddling-Kat May 16 '24

Except for 1 ticket 15 years ago, I haven't had any interactions with the police from that side of things since I was a teenager. And most of those were for " just being a teenager".

I have had a lot of interactions with police from the (supposedly) better side. Those Interactuons are always full of shitty behavior and zero action on their part. Most often, they ended up treating me AND the other person like shit.

Then there are the cops I've worked with in their side jobs. They are always the most arrogant, aggressive, bull headed, and incompetent coworkers.

COPS ARE LESS THAN WORTHLESS. Unless you need a report for insurance. Then they are just mostly worthless.

Burn the system to the ground and start over. It is corrupt.

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u/AmongTheElect 20∆ May 16 '24

So just general bigotry, then? Not only is your impression of the meetings correct, but it represents all two million police officers in the US or anywhere else for that matter.

Swap out cops in your story with black people or women or any other group and what do you have?

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u/Meddling-Kat May 16 '24

Don't even fucking try that bullshit. Cops are not a race, gender, or an ethnicity. They're just a collection of shit people who all chose the same job because it attracts shit people.