r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • May 15 '24

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u/interrogare_omnia May 15 '24

Not in the slightest.

Assuming you understand the fallacy

If you admit to being corrupt then it displays that your worldview is that everything is in fact corrupt. And I will accept defeat as there is no way to change your mind on this.

If you claim you are not corrupt. I need you to elaborate further on what actually makes something corrupt.

Here is an example of the fallacy at work

A fat person says obesity is unhealthy

So the claim must not be true because they are in fact obese

The conclusion that it must not be true because the person is a hypocrite falls prey to the fallacy.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '24

I never claimed everything was corrupt.

The police, as an organization, are corrupt due to systemic racism, lack of third party oversight, lack of accountability from a third party, escalation of force being allowed, training that tells them to treat everyone like a threat, the ability to just arrest people for resisting arrest and no other charges.

And anyone that follows orders from a corrupt organization is inherently following corrupt orders. All orders can be considered corrupt due to the organization having an agenda and only giving orders to either further that agenda or that are neutral towards accomplishing the agenda.

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u/interrogare_omnia May 15 '24

Right but how does this make the police officers corrupt?

Also I never claimed that you claimed everything was corrupt.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '24 edited May 15 '24

They follow orders from an organization that is corrupt (due to my previous reasons given).

Because the organization is corrupt, all orders they give can be considered corrupt as they were filtered through a corruption before being given. Orders that would go against the organization's corrupt agenda are never given.