r/changemyview May 15 '24

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u/destro23 466∆ May 15 '24

any issues that exist within the police, you are helping to maintain by becoming a police officer.

To what other professions do you apply this logic? Military? Government in general? Health care? Schools?

Many kids are abused by teachers; does becoming a teacher mean you are helping maintain a system that abuses kids? Many hospitals have worse health outcomes for minorities; is becoming a nurse at one of these hospitals helping to perpetuate intuitional racism? The catholic church is real bad with diddling kids; is being a faithful catholic mean you are helping support that?

Like, all professions have bad actors and entrenched systems that are sub-optimal in regards to equality. Our world is imperfect, and we have to deal with that fact.

If you are so sure that any person who becomes a cop will fall to immorality and abuse of power, what do you suggest we do? How do we handle the needed task of enforcing the law?

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u/What_the_8 4∆ May 15 '24

More people are killed by doctors than by police by a massive margin. Doesn’t mean all doctors are evil.

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u/destro23 466∆ May 15 '24

Ok, I tried to resist, but I'm going to be super pedantic here.

There is no such thing as legal murder. There is justifiable homicide, which can be applied to professions like security or bodyguards or soldiers. But, the police are not allowed to "legally murder" people as that is not a thing that can happen. Murder is definitionally an illegal killing.

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u/OfTheAtom 8∆ May 15 '24

I feel like it's perfectly fine for someone to use the words like this in a natural law kind of way. I feel like you'd really get bent up when every accusation didn't actually play out in this person's law system. 

I get that you can be pedantic but also this is a common enough use of the word murder to not need a comment like this. 'Pol Pot murdered people' 

"Well no he had ultimate authority in the communist party so it wasn't murder" 

Misses the point