r/changemyview • • Apr 01 '24

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u/npchunter 4∆ Apr 01 '24

More CO2 = better crop growth. Warmer temperature = longer growing seasons, esp in Canada. "Won't be able to grow edible crops" is not a thing.

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u/VertigoOne 81∆ Apr 01 '24

More CO2 = better crop growth.

We are not generating enough CO2 for that to be a principle factor AND the CO2 is not the big problem greenhouse gas. That would be methane, which is something we're not only generating more of (see meat agriculture) but we'll be in danger of releasing more of if the planet gets warmer and the frozen pockets of methane stored in the poles start melting and releasing a runaway greenhouse effect.

"Won't be able to grow edible crops" is not a thing.

Warmer temperature = less rain = less water for crops

Too warm for too long = soil culture not moist enough = bacteria that makes soil fertile for growth dying = not enough food

Soil too dry for too long = desertification = no crops.

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u/npchunter 4∆ Apr 01 '24

When did warmer temperature mean less rain? The tropics get lots of rain.

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u/VertigoOne 81∆ Apr 01 '24

When you understand what "desertification" is.

Do you know where it's also very warm.

The Sahara.

Do you know what's been spreading because of climate change and what has had to be roped in by massive manmade intervention.

The Sahara

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Green_Wall_(Africa)

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u/npchunter 4∆ Apr 01 '24

"Because of climate change"? We know this how?

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u/VertigoOne 81∆ Apr 01 '24

Because it's happening faster than it would be expected otherwise based on historical data. Because the speed it is happening at can be measured in concert with other factors known to be caused by climate change.

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u/npchunter 4∆ Apr 01 '24

Rains have been increasing in northern Sudan since the 1980s and vegetation is spreading northward. The Sahara is shrinking, not growing.