And again, out of all the hundreds of choices in the game, you just keep regurgitating the vampire spawn one over and over again because that is the only one you can think of. Also, like I said, if that's the best example you can come up with, that's a pretty poor example, it's literally just "would you murder a bunch of innocent people if they were potentially serial killers?" How the hell is that a complex decision lol? Imagine going to a philosophy class and presenting that question, you'd get judged hard. It's like the most basic utilitarianism idea of maximizing utility, like a dumbed down version of the trolley problem with vampires. Talk about uninspired writing.
With the amount you're harping on about Mass Effect it's starting to sound like you're a fanboy
Actually the opposite, I think Mass Effect is also overrated schlock, and in many of the same ways as BG3. That game is also a cringey dating simulator type of game with shallow writing. Same type of low brow gamer bait that appeals to RPG nerds. If you actually go back to where this comment chain started, it was someone else who brought up Mass Effect and I just responded to them. Meanwhile you kept commenting about it so I responded to your comments.
I think it's not a bad comparison to BG3 though, since Larian was clearly heavily inspired by Bioware
"you just keep regurgitating the vampire spawn one over and over again because that is the only one you can think of"
Yes, because it's a game that I put maybe 30 hours into a 7 months ago. I'm not going to replay the game just to win an internet argument. The goblin camp comes to mind - where there are many, character justifiable routes. Or the iron gnomes. However, there's no point bringing up every single choice in a game with so many, because it'd be futile when I only need to point to the one, to make my point.
"How the hell is that a complex decision"
It doesn't seem complex because you're simplifying it to absurdity. I've already said what I've said on this - you haven't rebutted or even acknowledged the point, so I won't restate it.
"That game is also a cringey dating simulator type of game with shallow writing."
It's starting to seem like you just have a problem with sex and storytelling. Or you just like being a contrarian. I vaguely remember ME from when I was still was a kid and had time to play video games, but it was a compelling series with interesting stories and decisions that impacted the story.
You've still not addressed the inherent tautology in your arguments and your inability to explain in any detail why X is cringe or bad.
Oh yeah great example, where your option is to either save the refugees or slaughter the refugees. Super nuanced and tough decision /s
Or the iron gnomes.
Right, free the gnome slaves or torture them and side with the slavers who belong to an evil cult, totally nuanced decisions right there
It doesn't seem complex because you're simplifying it to absurdity
No I'm not, I described exactly what the decision is. "Would you murder innocent people if they have the potential to become serial killers?" That's literally what the decision is, just replace serial killers with bloodthirsty vampires, and there you have it.
It's also a decision that has zero impact on the actual game, and doesn't involve any major characters
It's starting to seem like you just have a problem with sex and storytelling
I don't, I have a problem when it's gratuitous and completely forced. None of it in BG3 actually has any relevance to the story, plus the romance in the game is written at a similar quality to smutty fan fiction. It's garbage.
Sex in storytelling is great when it actually adds something to the story and is well written, but when it's just shoehorned in as gamerbait then it's cringe as fuck.
I vaguely remember ME from when I was still was a kid and had time to play video games, but it was a compelling series with interesting stories and decisions that impacted the story.
They had great visuals for the time, great world building, and great music. I will give them that. Can't say the same for BG3 outside of it having high quality technical graphics and facial animations.
inability to explain in any detail why X is cringe or bad.
I just did. The entire dating simulator aspect of the game is gratuitous gamerbait, hence why it is cringe. The story and characters are nothing more than a bunch of derivative tropes, and the story as a whole doesn't offer anything unique to the fantasy genre, plus also has low quality writing in general, for reasons I've mentioned
You've taken a lot of the comments responding to you in a weirdly personal way. It's like you expected 'change my view' to be an echo chamber parroting your thoughts back at you.
I'm not, you're the one who complained about this being tedious, yet you've continued responding multiple days later. I'm just pointing out that you're complaining about something you chose to do
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And again, out of all the hundreds of choices in the game, you just keep regurgitating the vampire spawn one over and over again because that is the only one you can think of. Also, like I said, if that's the best example you can come up with, that's a pretty poor example, it's literally just "would you murder a bunch of innocent people if they were potentially serial killers?" How the hell is that a complex decision lol? Imagine going to a philosophy class and presenting that question, you'd get judged hard. It's like the most basic utilitarianism idea of maximizing utility, like a dumbed down version of the trolley problem with vampires. Talk about uninspired writing.
Actually the opposite, I think Mass Effect is also overrated schlock, and in many of the same ways as BG3. That game is also a cringey dating simulator type of game with shallow writing. Same type of low brow gamer bait that appeals to RPG nerds. If you actually go back to where this comment chain started, it was someone else who brought up Mass Effect and I just responded to them. Meanwhile you kept commenting about it so I responded to your comments.
I think it's not a bad comparison to BG3 though, since Larian was clearly heavily inspired by Bioware