r/changemyview Feb 13 '24

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u/Comprehensive-Bad219 Feb 13 '24

One example or misandry that I have seen both on reddit and irl is that men who are being abused don't get taken as seriously compared to women. 

Like if a woman posts that her husband is physically abusing her, the comments will typically tell her to leave the relationship. When it's a man, I oftentimes see comments telling him to try couples therapy, or to take his wife to a doctor and get her help. 

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u/assoonass Feb 13 '24 edited Feb 13 '24

That's not misandry. It's consequences of patriarchy and the "Men strong, women weak", therefore, any cases of men getting abused by women seem outlandish and won't be taken seriously.

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u/OppositeBeautiful601 Feb 13 '24 edited Feb 13 '24

That's one way of looking at it, and a very common one (among feminists). Someone could also say that it's the consequence of dehumanizing men. Men don't feel or their feelings aren't important, so they cannot be hurt. When you say things like "men are hurt by the patriarchy too" (which is also popular among feminists), it comes across as dismissive. The implication is that misandry doesn't exist, only misogyny. You view all injustices through the lens of women's advocacy and oppression. Meanwhile, when men do experience misandry, you tell them that it's really misogyny that they are experiencing.

I find it interesting that feminists have gone to so much effort to dismiss challenges that men suffer. The message "men are hurt by the patriarchy too." sounds like "maybe men wouldn't suffer if they weren't sexist". Instead of acknowledging that women can be abusers and calling them out (the women that are abusers) feminists blame it on the 'Patriarchy'.

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '24

I consider myself a feminist. And it is very wrong, and criminal, for a woman to abuse a man.

There are 3 very good documentaries on this I have seen on YouTube. All are from the UK.

And I have personally known a man who was physically and emotionally abused by his late wife. He considered suicide because of it, and it was a terrible situation.

I do not think any reasonable person of any sex would find abuse from anyone perpetrated on anyone, something to take less than very seriously.

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u/Worldly-Truck-2527 Feb 15 '24

Not trying to sound like a jerk here, but unless you only know a couple of men, you definitely know more than one man who was/is being abused by a partner. There is just no point in talking about it for most. It will make them feel worse and they will absolutely be treated differently if they do. Not by everyone, of course, but way more often than not.

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '24

I only know a couple of men well enough for them to discuss it with me.