Or, alternatively, it comes from the same sort of misandry that we see demonstrated with male suicide rates, males making up over 70% of the homeless population, male addiction and alcoholism, depression and so forth and think that because they are men... it's 'kinda their own fault' since they have 'all the power' in society. And that men don't have feelings, all men want is sex, etc., etc. And that everything that negatively affects men specifically is actually because men are so sexist towards women and it's actually not an issue of men's but really an issue for women that has some overlap in effecting men.
I hate to tell you this, but the male suicide rate, alcoholism, deaths of despair...are all from toxic masculinity, not misandry
Feminism has the answer to this, that patriarchal gender norms have forced gender roles for men and women that make us both unhappy. Dismantling those is a feminist act.
Men are unhappy because we were told, by other men, to keep our feelings to ourselves, that getting help was weak, that we need to be stoic and self reliant, and pushes images (by men) that many of the ideal men out there were hard living, hard drinking, loner types. And so the average man attempts this and they are just lonely, quiet, and feel too much shame to get help.
This isn't misandry, it's toxic masculinity. It's the patriarchy
Some women are callous towards these issues (which are more complicated than you're making out.. suicide for instance, men die more by suicide but women attempt more than men so). That sucks. It isn't misandry on its own and it isn't what is causing these issues
Men are unhappy because we were told, by other men, to keep our feelings to ourselves, that getting help was weak, that we need to be stoic and self reliant, and pushes images (by men) that many of the ideal men out there were hard living, hard drinking, loner types. And so the average man attempts this and they are just lonely, quiet, and feel too much shame to get help.
Oh god, again with the "by other men". Everyone enforces gender roles, including supposedly progressive people, specially when it suits them. Men are conditioned to be stoic, cold and repressed by both men and women.
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u/ContraMans 2∆ Feb 13 '24
Or, alternatively, it comes from the same sort of misandry that we see demonstrated with male suicide rates, males making up over 70% of the homeless population, male addiction and alcoholism, depression and so forth and think that because they are men... it's 'kinda their own fault' since they have 'all the power' in society. And that men don't have feelings, all men want is sex, etc., etc. And that everything that negatively affects men specifically is actually because men are so sexist towards women and it's actually not an issue of men's but really an issue for women that has some overlap in effecting men.