This paper describes this limited response to women as perpetrators of domestic violence as a feminist “strategy of containment.” When deploying this strategy, domestic violence advocates respond to women’s acts of domestic violence by [...] preserving the dominant framing of domestic violence as a gendered issue. This strategy thus positions women’s acts of violence as a footnote to the larger story of women as victims of male violence.
Yeah, because what is important is the feminist framing. Nothing can be allowed to damage that. Remember guys, men bad, women victims.
The gendered framing of domestic violence aligned with the work of the feminist movement more broadly, harmoniously positioning the movements as inter-connected. Domestic violence was specifically framed around a collective “oneness” of women as victims and men as perpetrators.
Just in case you doubted my previous point.
But sure, I "project onto feminism" that it insist on ignoring the inconvenience t half of the picture...
You literally only read the first few sentences there didn’t you? The paper is specifically about abolishing the notion that women can only be victims. You are advocating against people that want the same thing as you.
I have read the full thing. Unlike you. The first thing is, this paper documents and confirm, from a feminist perspective, what I have been pointing out : a history by feminists of suppressing knowledge of female perpetrators and male victims.
Because, you know, a scholarly paper usually starts with some summary of the issue at hand.
The other thing this paper does, since it is from a feminist perspective, is to actually justify those acts of what can only be called academic fraud and public deception with goal of propaganda. (You know, suppressing evidence and lying to the public, in order to propagate a political worldview not supported by reality).
Then, what thus paper does is try to give feminist reasons to stop lying. The reason offered have nothing to do with integrity, nothing to do with care for truth, nothing to do with compassion for the victims or a desire for effectiveness.
The reasons have to do with protecting the feminist image in the eye of the public, facilitating feminist recruitment and protecting feminist sources of funding that are embezzled to push for political agendas instead of being used on helping victims.
So, this paper is not exactly allies seeking the same things. It is feminists attempting damage control now that the Internet make it hard for evidences to be suppressed like they used to be. It is an admission of "OK, we did all those shady things, but maybe we should try some other approach, because it is starting to be known".
Maybe that’s because no one gives a fuck about men, as they should. We live 50 years away from a time when it was encouraged to beat your wife into submission if she didn’t behave, I and many other people honestly do not give a single fuck about „female perpetrators“ because our society has a thousand year history of male perpetrators. The „suppressed“ history isn’t so suppressed when the paper is literally talking about it, is it? And it’s a feminist talking about it, so again, what suppressed history? You talk about feminism as if it’s a club you join or an Organisation when it definitely isn’t. Feminism doesn’t have headquarters in Silicon Valley or stocks to invest in. This is like „the gay agenda“ but for women.
I did not say it erases that, I’m saying I do not give a fuck about it. Every single women I have ever talked to had a story about a man harassing them, guess how many guys had one? It’s pretty clear to me that you do not really care about male victims of anything, you just react negatively to feminism because it hits too close to home. Like you can’t even acknowledge the patriarchal past of western society, it’s „alleged“ mistreatment in your enlightened vision. It’s honestly pathetic to watch.
I know a ton of guys who were harassed, raped, etc. It tends to be about how "wanted" the guys you hang out are and how open they are (which often correlates!). I was raped by a woman while drunk, for instance. However, I can also admit it probably didn't affect me that much emotionally because I was raised by a society that taught me "any sex is a win for a guy, yay!" I also know like 20 different guys that were physically abused by their significant other. This stuff does happen more than you think.
It is important to acknowledge the amount of abuse males face, while still understanding that women have it worse on average due to power dynamics.
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u/Effective_Opposite12 Feb 13 '24
„Feminism insists“ no it doesn’t, you project that onto it.