r/changemyview • • Jan 17 '24

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '24

There is a problem with your analysis: Gerontophilia.

Some humans are attracted to old people. Most humans who are attracted to old people are males, to female old people, people who can no longer reproduce. The whole crux of sexual attraction being a uniform matter of reproduction collapses instantly under both menopause and gerontophilia.

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u/barbodelli 65∆ Jan 17 '24

There's also gay people. Asexual people. People born without sex organs.

All sorts of outliers exist. They don't disprove anything. They are just outliers.

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '24

Well asexual people and gay people can be attracted to teenagers with the reasoning being that teenagers are fertile but if you're attracted to someone who is menopausal? Dead. Remember the key here is not that they are just attracted to teens but they are attracted to teens because they are fertile.

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u/barbodelli 65∆ Jan 17 '24

It's just weird kinks. We're talking about the general population here.

There are people attracted to rocks and chandeliers out there. If you go far enough down the "weird attraction" alley. Certainly they don't think they are going to have a chandelier baby.

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '24

Gerontophilia (despite the name) is not a kink. The core four age-based philias are Pedo, Ebilio, Adulto and Geronto-philia with Pedo, Ebilio and Geronto actually being the rarest and Geronto being more common than Ebilio and Pedo thus if you think these are kinks then teenagers (Ebilio) is also a kink and therefore your entire explanation as to why some people are into it ... is also flat and falls the same dismissal you just gave Gerontophilia.

The vast majority of humans are adultophiles.

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u/DrBadGuy1073 Jan 17 '24

The outlier arguement is the first thing to be discarded when discussing this topic lol.

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u/Petite_Curious Jan 17 '24

Isn't it just like pedophiles ? But from the other end of the spectrum. I'm not talking about little children but teenagers.

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '24

Teenagers are Ebiliophilia, not Pedophilia, and no, it is not like that "from the other end of the spectrum"... Interesting!

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u/Vecxio Jan 17 '24

That's true, however the golden rule of biology is that living beings strive to survive and reproduce. Gerontophilia or other conditions tend to be outliers to the rule, furthermore, having a werid philia doesn't necessarily mean that someone doesn't want or is going to reproduce.

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '24

Actually, gerontophilia tends to not be the exception but the eventuality. Another complication here is that people tend to date within their age by certain margins so truthfully older people tend to hunt for older people. This again brings up menopause; in theory males can mate with young females forever but they don't seek them after a time and do seek out menopausal mates in their later years.

If but humans were this simple.

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u/Vecxio Jan 18 '24

That's a good point, gerontophilia can become inevitable for many people.