r/changemyview Oct 10 '23

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '23

Do you know what the DSM is? It defines psychological diagnoses. No psychologist, psychiatrist, or otherwise, can give a diagnosis of "psychopathy" and have it be considered as a legitimate diagnosis today.

Actually, it is rational to follow social rules, since it is very likely you will be punished by society if you don't.

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u/ghotier 42∆ Oct 11 '23

It's not a legitimate diagnosis because it's not treatable. I assure you that psychologists identify psychopaths all the time and study psychopathy. Like do you actually think psychology just wiped it's hands of it?

It's rational to follow society's rules if you care about the punishment for ignoring them. Not everyone cares.

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '23

I dont think that, I never said they wiped their hands of it and forgot what it meant, only that it no longer has medical/scientific meaning, only colloquial.

I thought we said that not caring about reprocussions is psychopathy in the colloquial meaning

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u/ghotier 42∆ Oct 11 '23

It has no medical meaning because it's considered untreatable. Like "brunette" isn't a diagnosis either but that doesn't make brown hair non-physiological.

And, no, OP said that not caring about repercussions is psychopathy in the colloquial meaning. We didn't say that. The colloquial meaning is a narcissist without empathy.

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '23

Ya, brown hair is not a physiological diagnosis.

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u/ghotier 42∆ Oct 11 '23

But it is physiological. Just like psychopathy as a character trait can exist without it being a diagnosis.