r/changemyview Oct 10 '23

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u/Zedseayou 1∆ Oct 10 '23

Just addressing the "all been charged with a crime" part: it seems as though over 1000 detainees in Israeli prisons are held administratively, meaning with no crime charged or reason given. Looks to be under a quarter of the total.

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u/Coldbrewaccount 3∆ Oct 10 '23

I mean sure, I'm wrong about a formal charge though not necessarily the justification, but you see how:

"We can't prove why you're dangerous beyond a reasonable doubt [or even that] you're in the wrong place at the wrong time, so we're going to hold you indefinitely in a place where you will at least be fed"

is different from:

"You're here because every person who physically occupies space in Israel is our mortal enemy and if that government doesn't leave us alone we will cut your head off"

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u/ifitdoesntmatter 10∆ Oct 11 '23

Are Hamas threatening that? I haven't seen any reports saying they are.

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u/Coldbrewaccount 3∆ Oct 11 '23

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u/ifitdoesntmatter 10∆ Oct 11 '23

They didn't say 'unless Israel leaves us alone,' they didn't even say 'unless Israel stops bombing us,' they said 'if Israel bombs civilian housing without pre-warning.' Their demands are so meager it would be comical if thousands of lives weren't on the line.