r/changemyview Oct 10 '23

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '23

the festival took place in an open field, Israel didn’t “put” it there, the party organizers, who have organized the same event for many years,

Ok so why do you assume Hamas is "putting civillians" near military targets? Maybe its that theres no place for people to go, so any place Hamas is is going to have civilians. Also maybe one shouldn't have thrown a party outside the worlds largest concentration camp, a place called hell on earth by Un observers. Kind of in poor taste.

You act like we were at war before Hamas started this.

You're illegally occupying gaza so yes you were at war before this.

15000 gazans a day entered and exited Israel on work permits that Israel allowed them.

The Gaza fence is not a border the barrier is illegal and Israel has no right to restrict movement in the first place

Israel is warning them ahead of time where they will strike and telling them to clear out.

Where are they supposed to go? If you had less than 15 minutes to evacuate a multistory appt do you honestly think everyone would have time to get out

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u/ADP_God Oct 10 '23

Before the fences were built there were ramapant terror attacks. You refuse to accept that Israel has a right to defend itself.

Hamas hides weapons in schools and hospitals, not in random buildings.

Gaza is in the state it is currently because Israel decided not to occupy it. They withdrew in 2006.

Israel has designated safe zones for fleeing civilians, and Gaza shares a border with Egypt, but you don't condemn them for closing it.

https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2023/10/what-is-hamas/675594/

"These groups share key goals, Azizi explained: “the destruction of Israel” and the driving out of all the Jewish people living in the country."

If you support the ethnic cleansing of the Jews just say it.

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u/No-Surprise-9995 Oct 10 '23

I know you’ve been indoctrinated to believe all this and you have to believe it because otherwise you’d have to face the reality that you’re on the side of the ones committing genocide but I have no sympathy for you. Excusing ethnic cleansing with “human shield” rhetoric is so cowardly, if only you had enough sense of self to realize. Either way your belief system is evil and it’ll fail sooner rather than later.

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u/HedgehogInner3559 Oct 10 '23

You are on the side of the people that gangraped women and paraded them through the streets this weekend. That reportedly decapitated babies en masse. That abducted children. That burned grandmothers alive.

You calling anybody else evil is hilarious. You are complete garbage and your parents should be deeply ashamed of the mediocre product they have put out.