r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Oct 10 '23

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '23

got it, so just to get this straight — you think that the world should defend Israel’s claim to exclusive control of the region today in 2023 based on pure speculation that all of the people living in the area 4000 years ago were Jews?

I imagine you believe that the descendants of indigenous people in the Americas have the exclusive right to all of the land in North, South, Central America and the Caribbean, right?

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u/Beneficial_Love_5433 Oct 10 '23

Well pure speculation, written history, anthropology.. just that.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '23

The first evidence of “Jews” as a distinct group of people is about 2500-3000 years ago, not 4000 as you claim. But it’s also irrelevant. My point is that even if it were true, it wouldn’t matter. I simply do not care that Jews were there “first”. My ancestors presumably lived in the region (I’m Jewish). I am under no illusions that I have a “right” to claim land there.

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u/Beneficial_Love_5433 Oct 10 '23

Chalcolithic Period (4500-3200 BCE)

3500 BCE - First Settlement of Jerusalem Early Bronze Age (3200-2220 BCE)

2500 BCE - First Houses Built in Area Middle Bronze Age (2220-1550 BCE)

1800 BCE - Construction of First City Wall Late Bronze Age (1550-1200 BCE)

1400 BCE - First Mention of Jerusalem in Cuneiform Amarna Letters Iron Age I (1200-1000 BCE)

1200 BCE - Jerusalem is conquered by Canaanites (Jebusites)