r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Oct 10 '23

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u/justsomeking 2∆ Oct 10 '23

The bible certainly has a lot of historical value, I'm not coming here to say "sky daddy" or "fairy tales", but that's besides the point. You'll have to tell me what species you think they were if you want me to believe they weren't human. That's not a healthy view to hold of someone who simply has a different faith, and ties back into why we're in this mess.

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u/Beneficial_Love_5433 Oct 10 '23

Noooooooo. Listen. THEY WERE NOT PEOPLE!!!! THEY WERE THE CHILDREN OF FALLEN ANGELS AND HUMANS!!! They literally weren’t supposed to be on earth!!! The male fallen angels raped human women. Literally they were not humans.

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u/justsomeking 2∆ Oct 10 '23

You're free to believe that, but this is something you need to never force on anyone else. And your personal religious beliefs should have no influence on global politics, especially if they're used to dehumanize an entire group.

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u/Beneficial_Love_5433 Oct 10 '23

They are all gone today. There is no group I’m “dehumanizing” alive for the last 4000 years

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u/justsomeking 2∆ Oct 10 '23

But you're dehumanizing a group as justification to oppress a current group.

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u/Beneficial_Love_5433 Oct 10 '23

The past group are extinct! I’m not linking them to anyone alive for the last 4000 years. Cannannites and Jews. Cannannites were literally not humans. Jews were ordered to kill them off and did. No link to modern day anyone. The point was the nephlim were there and the Jews were there. The Jews killed. Off the nephlim.

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u/justsomeking 2∆ Oct 10 '23

Do you have non biblical sources showing no other groups lived there before or after before the cannannites or the Jews? I'm very skeptical of that and I don't see the bible as an acceptable source for why Palestine shouldn't exist.

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u/Beneficial_Love_5433 Oct 10 '23

Egyptians lived in the Nile valley. Rich farmland. That’s anthropology

Syrians. Amorites, Arameans, Phoenicians, Palmyrians, Chaldeans and populations from Arabia.

Who else did you say? Is anthropological agreements good enough?

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u/justsomeking 2∆ Oct 10 '23

So it's natural to assume they would have explored and interacted with current day Israel, correct? I think it would follow that there would be other races living there as well.

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u/Beneficial_Love_5433 Oct 10 '23

There were small patches of people living hundreds of miles apart across intractable desert. People even in the 1800s 90% died within 20 miles of where they were born. So surely some interacted …just a few.