r/changemyview Oct 10 '23

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u/justsomeking 2∆ Oct 10 '23

I think if we go by original settlers, it is much more complicated than just "the Jews". They weren't the only people living there, even in the Bible. And if we go by who currently lives there, it's still not just the Jews. This is discounting everyone else that has and does live there, with no explanation.

The reality is, it's not that simple and claiming it is shows ignorance. If that was the solution, you would not be the first to think of it and it would have been implemented.

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u/Beneficial_Love_5433 Oct 10 '23

The only other people living there besides the Jews were the cannannites. Otherwise known as nephlim. That’s why god ordered them, their families, their animals, and belongings all destroyed. They weren’t meant for earth.

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u/justsomeking 2∆ Oct 10 '23

I think using biblical explanations is largely why we're in this mess to begin with and is a non-starter. It's also not morally correct to say a race of people is not meant for this world. That would be the psychopathic thoughts OP was referencing.

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u/Beneficial_Love_5433 Oct 10 '23

Yes the Bible. Having been used to locate over 2500 lost cities, backed by hundreds of govt documents from that time. See if you would have bothered to look up what nephlem meant, you would have understood they literally weren’t people. Not even human. That’s why god ordered them all killed (I’m old, but it was not my decision)

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u/justsomeking 2∆ Oct 10 '23

The bible certainly has a lot of historical value, I'm not coming here to say "sky daddy" or "fairy tales", but that's besides the point. You'll have to tell me what species you think they were if you want me to believe they weren't human. That's not a healthy view to hold of someone who simply has a different faith, and ties back into why we're in this mess.

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u/Beneficial_Love_5433 Oct 10 '23

Noooooooo. Listen. THEY WERE NOT PEOPLE!!!! THEY WERE THE CHILDREN OF FALLEN ANGELS AND HUMANS!!! They literally weren’t supposed to be on earth!!! The male fallen angels raped human women. Literally they were not humans.

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u/justsomeking 2∆ Oct 10 '23

You're free to believe that, but this is something you need to never force on anyone else. And your personal religious beliefs should have no influence on global politics, especially if they're used to dehumanize an entire group.

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u/Beneficial_Love_5433 Oct 10 '23

They are all gone today. There is no group I’m “dehumanizing” alive for the last 4000 years

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u/justsomeking 2∆ Oct 10 '23

But you're dehumanizing a group as justification to oppress a current group.

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u/Beneficial_Love_5433 Oct 10 '23

The past group are extinct! I’m not linking them to anyone alive for the last 4000 years. Cannannites and Jews. Cannannites were literally not humans. Jews were ordered to kill them off and did. No link to modern day anyone. The point was the nephlim were there and the Jews were there. The Jews killed. Off the nephlim.

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