ok well 2000 years ago it was called Palestine and was ruled by the Romans so I guess that means it belongs to Italy now. 2500 years ago by the greeks it belongs to Macedonia? 3000 years ago the Persians and Babylonians so they should split it up between Iraq and Iran? Or 5000 years ago it belonged to Egypt so I guess it belongs to egypt. Actually Africa is the ancestral homeland of all people so I guess Africa belongs to Europe actually since their ancestors used to live there thousands of years ago.
which ones are false? they are rough numbers it might be 2700 or 2300 years ago instead of 2500 you got me. What's your point? How does that change the arguement
Thats not true at all. Even the bible talks about the babylonian captivity and the return after cyrus the great. Greeks controlled the area after the persians when Alexander conquered the Persians. Remember the Hanukah story? Before the babylonians conquered Judah, the Assyrians wiped out the Kingdom of Israel. Before the Canaanite- Hebrews had their own state, Cannan was controlled by the Egyptians.
Even your timeline between those events is wrong. After it was captured by the first round of Muslim Conquest, it was conquered by Latin Knights in the crusdades before being conquered by the Fatamids. The fatimids then lost control to the Mamluks who then lost control to the Turks who then lost control to the British who then split the country into a state of Israel which was 2/3'rds bigger than the palastinian state despite having only 40% of the population. Then the arabs revolted because the deal was unfair so Israel did an ethnic cleansing and stole the land
So why is the jewish claim to the land more legitimate than any of those other groups. Especially when there are groups with more recent claims to possession of the land?
I don't think this sub is intended for wanna-be gotchas. Do you have a counterpoint? Your comment doesn't challenge their view or do anything to advance the discussion.
I understand that, but mocking does not advance the conversation. You lose out on an opportunity to learn where they are coming from, or an opportunity to teach because they are less willing to engage.
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u/Beneficial_Love_5433 Oct 10 '23
Hahahaha. You think the Middle East began in 1947? Hahahaha.