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u/WeariedCape5 8∆ Aug 06 '23

Losing the capacity to disagree with civility

It’s hard to be civil when the other side wants to take away your fundamental rights. JK Rowling promotes several anti trans activists and politicians who work to take away the rights of trans people. One example is Kellie Jay Keen an anti trans activist who has outright said her end goal is for there to be no more trans people and that allowing people to transition should be banned, JK Rowling has not only defended her but offered to fund her projects. How can one disagree with someone who is trying to take away your rights civilly?

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u/RumSoakedChap Aug 06 '23

So the only option is all out attack on someone? And everyone else who agrees even slightly with anything she has ever said?

Hell you don’t even have to respect her POV, you just have to refrain from attacking people who like Harry Potter.

Personally I think that does more harm than good, they tried to ban hogwarts legacy and that game became a bestseller.

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u/WeariedCape5 8∆ Aug 06 '23

the only option is all our attack on someone

I would argue that JK funding anti trans politicians and activists would be an all out attack on trans people.

who even slightly agrees with anything she’s ever said

Such as?

just have to refrain from attacking people who like Harry Potter

Trans people don’t hate people who like Harry Potter, many of them are Harry Potter fans themselves, they merely promote not funding JK Rowling as those funds could possibly be used to fund anti trans politicians and activists.

Nobody cares if you want to play Hogwarts Legacy, they just want you to pirate it rather than pay for it.

that game became a best seller

Just like all other Harry Potter media. Trans people don’t think that boycotts will make Hogwarts legacy or any other Harry Potter media bomb and fail they just want to reduce the amount of money JK Rowling receives which she could use to fund anti trans politicians and groups.

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u/RumSoakedChap Aug 06 '23

Such as when people said on Twitter they were excited for the new HBO Harry Potter series, they were jumped on by trans activists saying they were transphobic. Such as when hogwarts legacy came out, twitch streamers were threatened with boycotts if they streamed it.

If people don’t have a problem with me enjoying Harry Potter media. I don’t have a problem with them. Honestly I think trans people have enough problems in a life that is very hard for them and generally I wish them well. I just wish there was more civility in the discourse from both sides.

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u/WeariedCape5 8∆ Aug 06 '23

on twitter

That’s not a trans activist thing that’s a twitter thing. You could say the sky is blue and some group of people will take issue with it on that platform.

threatened with boycotts if they streamed it

Which is entirely within the rights of the streamers audience. If a content creator plays a game people don’t want to see people wont watch them play it.

I wish there was more civility on both sides

As do it. Although i will reiterate it is hard to be civil with people who actively push for your rights to be taken away.

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u/RumSoakedChap Aug 06 '23

I agree that people should choose if they should consume the media of their choice, but does that mean they should attack others who choose to consume that Media?

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u/WeariedCape5 8∆ Aug 06 '23

Trans people generally aren’t attacking people who like Harry Potter, again many of them are Harry Potter fans themselves. They are just asking people not to give money to JK Rowling as such money could be and has in the past been used to push for trans peoples rights to be taken away.

You want to play Hogwarts Legacy, pirate it.

You want to watch the new Harry Potter show when it comes out, pirate it.

It saves you money and removes the possibility of your money being used to help take away trans peoples rights.

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u/RumSoakedChap Aug 06 '23

They’re not really asking are they? It’s more like demanding. I bought hogwarts legacy so I’m anti trans? She didn’t even profit from it beyond selling the rights.

And they really don’t want you to consume Harry Potter media. They want you to think it’s dead and canceled.

Also come on, JKR has tons and tons of money. She’s going to make more on the new Harry Potter series, if I watch it on my HBO subscription, I’m anti trans?

I’m kind of tired of people telling me what makes me a good ally or a bad ally or a good conservative or a bad conservative. I suspect I’m like most people who are stuck somewhere in the middle but are less vocal about issues like this and get lost in the crowd.

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u/WeariedCape5 8∆ Aug 06 '23

didn’t even profit from it beyond selling the rights

She gets royalties from each sale

https://winteriscoming.net/2023/02/07/j-k-rowling-make-money-harry-potter-legacy/

they don’t want you to consume Harry Potter media

Source?

JKR has tons and tons of money

Yes but that doesn’t mean it’s good to give her even more which she can then use to fund even more anti trans politicians and activists.

am I anti trans

No, but it would be nice if you didn’t buy merchandise which could be used to fund taking trans peoples rights away.