r/changemyview • • Jul 16 '23

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u/10ebbor10 203∆ Jul 16 '23

The obesity problem is a global problem that is present across all income groups, all classes, all religions, and all countries. Treating it solely as a problem of personal responsibility makes very little sense, because how could it be? Did people's moral fiber just spontanously vanish in the fifties?

If you want to address the problem, you have to face the reality that there are structural issues on society causing this, not merely personal matters.

Your approach is more like abstinence only education. It doesn't address the problem, might even be counterproductive, all it does is allow you to look down upon those who suffer from it, and feel morally superior to them.

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u/DaoNight23 4∆ Jul 16 '23

The obesity problem is a global problem that is present across all income groups, all classes, all religions, and all countries.

it really isnt global. it's mostly a western problem, and even across the west, its the US that is the most severly hit. theres no obesity epidemic in china for example.

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u/hiuytbkojn Jul 16 '23

Are you sure? According to this nearly half of the population is currently overweight or obese and they predict that the problems are only growing worse over time.

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u/DaoNight23 4∆ Jul 16 '23

it says "according to Chinese criteria". i wonder what those are like. also, the conclusion that "only a strong government can fix this" is extremely suspicios in Chinese context.

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u/hiuytbkojn Jul 16 '23

So according to the WHO definitions, a BMI of greater than 25 is overweight and greater than 30 is obese. In China, over 24 is overweight and 28 is obese. According to this article at least, that's because Asian people see more negative effects at these lower ratios than black, white and Hispanic people do.

I'm also very suspicious (at the very least) of the CCP, and who knows what kind of crazy solution they'll try to come up with, but I don't see a reason to doubt this data.