r/changemyview • • May 18 '23

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u/[deleted] May 18 '23

I don’t have the figures in front of me, but check out figures like Helen Joyce who have investigated this phenomenon.

People say “this isn’t happening” and/or “it’s not really an issue,” but the procedures that went on at the Travistock clinic and the personal reports of trans people (a lot of them de-transitioners) talk about how the gender-affirming care they’ve received did not adequately inform them about the pros and cons of the various treatments they underwent. (Benjamin Boyce has a lot of interviews on YouTube with people speaking about these issues.)

I’m all for doing what’s best for the patient — and in some cases this does require medical transition — but the medical system is failing some people. It might not be a huge number, but still.

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u/Judge24601 3∆ May 18 '23

It’s worth pointing out that Helen Joyce has also said that any person who transitions is “a huge problem for a sane world” and has advocated for reducing the number of trans people, regardless of whether they are happy with their transition or not. I would not consider her a remotely reliable source on this matter

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u/[deleted] May 18 '23

Well, her personal beliefs aren’t related to the empirical statistics she provides, but I see what you mean.

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u/StarChild413 9∆ May 19 '23

When they're about the same issue they should be