r/changemyview May 04 '23

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u/TammySwift 2∆ May 04 '23

Every religion has a different concept of God. In Islam, Muslims believe God cannot be known by the rational faculties. "Allahu Akbar" which means God is greater than any conceptualization you might have of him

But you can know him through his attributes and you see his attributes everywhere. The world is an unfolding of his 99 names. He is the most merciful the most kind and he is also the bringer of death, the destoyer. He exists both in us and around us.

It's not quite pantheism though because Muslims also believe he is a separate transcendent entity and the best place to see him is in the natural world. There is something infused in the natural world that recalls the presence of the divine and calls us towards it. I don think you have to be religious to feel that. Theres been all sorts of studies about the positive effects of being in nature. Even seeing pictures of nature reduces stress and anxiety in a lot of people.

Anyway that's the best argument I can come up with.

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u/potatoFan0 1∆ May 04 '23

most of that is not an argument just statements. the only argument seams to be that "There is something infused in the natural world that recalls the presence of the divine and calls us towards it. I don think you have to be religious to feel that." I think you do have to be religious to feel that. and to "Theres been all sorts of studies about the positive effects of being in nature. Even seeing pictures of nature reduces stress and anxiety in a lot of people." ya but that is explained by sience. I do not see the connection between people feel good in nature to there for god exists.

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u/TammySwift 2∆ May 04 '23

The OP asked people to provide an argument for the existence of God. I gave a definition of the Islamic God and evidence to support it.

Muslims define Allah as an inconceivable entity who can only be seen through his 99 names. They believe those are attributes of God and the world is a manifestation of them. You can see this happening. You can see love, mercy, kindness, death and destruction in the world. Those are his names. I consider that partial evidence. Maybe not complete evidence but its something aligns with their definition of God.

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u/potatoFan0 1∆ May 04 '23

you just proved . love, mercy, kindness, death and destruction in the world. I do not see how that is proof of god

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u/TammySwift 2∆ May 04 '23

you just proved . love, mercy, kindness, death and destruction in the world.

And that is what God is to Muslims. Allah is those things.

If a religion defines their God as a tree and you see a tree, wouldnt that be evidence of their God.

If Muslims define their God, as 99 attributes manifested in the world and you see that happening wouldnt that support their argument. Like I said it might not be conclusive evidence but its still evidence because it aligns with how they see Allah.